Frankly speaking, I don't like messages I do hear lately. Instead of appreciating volunteers that raise here and there into contributing to the projects and mentor them to enable their succession, we rather potential contributors from even trying to. I find this quite disappointing, frankly speaking. I do know, that everyone is very limited on resources and probably can't dedicate enough time into mentoring, but this road is only one way. Without new people and companies coming to the community it has quite vague future overall... Like freezer question has raised multiple time during last year, with everyone being afraid to use it as it's not maintained. Not saying that I was reached personally couple of times as well. But if each person who asked about it spent at least small chunk of time to the project maintenance - it would be one of the best maintained projects... So probably let's check what each of interested parties can do to keep the project alive? As otherwise the only solution for scheduling backups in OpenStack would be either self-written or commercial solutions, which would be either longer time-to-market or just more expensive after some time then maintaining the project. So I guess my point here is to motivate anybody who is interested and raise a hand in this thread, so we can join forces and have a decent backup service in a good shape... On Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 19:26 Jay Faulkner <jay@gr-oss.io> wrote:
Freezer is currently considered inactive[0] under our policy. I would say based on the last patch merged[1] that was not submitted by someone on a shared OpenStack team dating to Feb 2023, it's likely to be nominated for retirement unless significant meaningful contribution comes forward quickly.
Based on this information, I would not recommend new deployments of Freezer unless you intend on taking over maintenance of the project. I apologize for this being the case, but we'd rather be up-front about the state of the project than have you deploy something that's not actively maintained.
Thanks, Jay Faulkner OpenStack TC Chair
0: https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/emerging-technology-and-inacti... 1: https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/freezer+status:merged
On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 6:42 PM Satish Patel <satish.txt@gmail.com> wrote:
If I am not mistaken here are the ci-job https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/freezer+status:open
On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 6:27 PM Alvaro Soto <alsotoes@gmail.com> wrote:
If somebody can explain me about the ci jobs, I can help.
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On Sat, Mar 9, 2024, 5:02 PM Satish Patel <satish.txt@gmail.com> wrote:
I’m also interested in freezer but as you said because of no activity I’m hesitant to deploy.
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 10:58 PM Sam Su (苏正伟) <suzhengwei@inspur.com> wrote:
Hi,folks,
Recently I have tested freezer, and it still works.
I want to submit some patches which would make Freezer more easy-to-use, but I found the ci-jobs not fixed for long time. I think the most important thing is to solve the ci-jobs firstly. Then there would be new commits.
Would some one help this project back to routine maintenance?
*发件人:* Zakhar Kirpichenko <zakhar@gmail.com> *发送时间:* 2023年10月25日 1:24 *收件人:* Jay Faulkner <jay@gr-oss.io> *抄送:* Openstack Discuss <openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org> *主题:* Re: [Freezer] Is Freezer dead?
Thank you, Jay.
I haven't tried Freezer lately, but we tried it a couple of years ago in our Wallaby lab and couldn't get the backend to work properly, the UI code also had some issues. Our attempts to get in touch with the devs were unsuccessful, we've never heard back. We haven't touched Freezer since then, thus I'd like to correct my statement to "after trying it and attempting to get in touch with its devs, my team assumed that Freezer was abandoned". I'd be glad to find out that it's alive, but don't have high hopes.
/Z
On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 at 19:14, Jay Faulkner <jay@gr-oss.io> wrote:
Hey Zakhar & Roby,
As far as governance is concerned, Freezer still exists. But I see in git, no commits since the last 8 months. Based on your comment, do you have experience that reflects it's not functional? If it truly is abandoned, we should ensure the governance reflects that -- but right now we have the impression it should work, and was included in the bobcat release: https://releases.openstack.org/bobcat/index.html#bobcat-freezer.
Thanks,
Jay Faulkner
OpenStack TC Chair
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 2:07 AM Zakhar Kirpichenko <zakhar@gmail.com> wrote:
It's been an abandonware for at least a couple of years. Not sure about alternatives.
/Z
On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 at 11:35, <pi3.14@tuta.io> wrote:
Hi folks,
is Freezer still supported? I don't see any real development going on with it.
Is it recommended to use in a production Cloud environment?
Are there other free and open source alternatives to Freezer?
Thanks Roby