Hi,
Dnia środa, 12 kwietnia 2023 08:50:51 CEST Sean Mooney pisze:
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 2:42 AM Takashi Kajinami <tkajinam@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 2:28 AM Ghanshyam Mann <gmann@ghanshyammann.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> ---- On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 02:01:38 -0700 Slawek Kaplonski wrote ---
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > Dnia wtorek, 11 kwietnia 2023 10:49:44 CEST Takashi Kajinami pisze:
> >> > > This probably causes a bit wider effect than just retiring the winstackers
> >> > > project.
> >> > >
> >> > > I see some projects (cinde, designate, glance and os-brick) depend on
> >> > > os-win which is under
> >> > > governance of winstackers and will be retired. Also, even some more
> >> > > projects (Neutron, os-vif,
> >> > > ovsdbapp, oslo.log, etc) supports windows without os-win.
> >> > >
> >> > > If we retire Winstackers, then is it reasonable to remove all
> >> > > implementations to support Windows ?
> >> >
> >> > That's very good question IMO. And, from Neutron perspective very important according to the removal of netifaces dependency - it would be much easier to remove it by removing all "windows" module from Neutron repo rather than refactoring it.
> >>
> >> I agree. Thanks, Takashi for raising it.
> >>
> >> If we retire Winstackers then yes, it means all dependencies of any functionality (user-facing or internal)
> >> need to be removed also. This is not a good situation for us as window support of OpenStack, if I am
> >> not wrong, Cloudbase is the only company maintaining and supporting the window support since starting.
> >> If there is any company having their customer based on windows then this is the right time to step up and help
> >> in maintaining this project. Otherway (based on project wants and have the bandwidth) is to implement the
> >> alternate way in projects for window support (the one you mentioned has window support ).
> >>
> > Please correct me if I'm wrong but what cloudbase has been maintaining is support for windows guest
> > instead of windows host.
> that is incorrect cloudbase provide the third party ci that test
> deploying openstack compute nodes on windows.
> that is the in/out of tree hyperV virt driver and the ovs on windows
> supprot used with os-vif and neuton ml2/ovs plugsins on windows.
Exactly. In neutron we have ovs-agent related code to run it on windows host, like e.g.: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/tree/master/neutron/agent/windows
>
> while we are happy to review fixes for hyper v /windows hows we now no
> longer have any way to test these changes in ci ro locally as we
> don't have a maintained way to deploy devstack on hyper v/windows hosts.
>
> out side fo the cloud base init package which is optional there is no
> depency on cloudbase to support windows guest.
> that is unaffected. but windows host support is now effectivly
> unmainated and untested.
>
> > My previous question was about Windows host support (whether we can remove
> > all implementations to run OpenStack services in windows hosts, instead of linux hosts) and guest support
> > can be kept now.
> >
> >>
> >> -gmann
> >>
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 6:29 AM Ghanshyam Mann gmann@ghanshyammann.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Thanks, Lucian, for the updates and email link.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > As the next step, we will discuss it in TC and take the next action.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -gmann
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ---- On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 00:11:38 -0700 Lucian Petrut wrote ---
> >> > > > > Hi,
> >> > > > > Thanks for reaching out. As mentioned here [1], Cloudbase Solutions can
> >> > > > no longer lead the Winstackers project. Since there weren’t any other
> >> > > > interested parties, I think there’s no other option but to retire the
> >> > > > project.
> >> > > > > [1]
> >> > > > https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-November/031044.html
> >> > > > > Regards,Lucian Petrut
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On 22 Mar 2023, at 19:43, Ghanshyam Mann gmann@ghanshyammann.com>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > Hi Lukas,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I am reaching out to you as you were PTL for OpenStack Winstackers
> >> > > > project in the last cycle.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > There is no PTL candidate for the next cycle (2023.2), and it is on the
> >> > > > leaderless project list. Please
> >> > > > > check if you or anyone you know would like to lead this project.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > - https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/2023.2-leaderless
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Also, if anyone else would like to help leading this project, this is
> >> > > > time to let TC knows.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > -gmann
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
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> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Slawek Kaplonski
> >> > Principal Software Engineer
> >> > Red Hat
> >>
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Slawek Kaplonski
Principal Software Engineer
Red Hat