On 1/6/21 9:56 AM, Herve Beraud wrote:
Concerning Oslo this is a team decision/position and for now this isn't something general, so, you can still continue to test LC if it works for you.
The only issue I see is that based on our discussions, the big problem with lower-constraints testing is that it requires all of your dependencies to have compatible l-c too, so if Oslo drops testing of that it's going to make it extremely difficult for any other OpenStack projects to maintain it.
The TC still needs to decide if we should continue with that or not in an official manner.
Sorry if my precedent message is misleading some of you.
Le mer. 6 janv. 2021 à 14:25, Sean Mooney <smooney@redhat.com <mailto:smooney@redhat.com>> a écrit :
On Wed, 2021-01-06 at 13:43 +0100, Slawek Kaplonski wrote: > Hi, > > Dnia środa, 6 stycznia 2021 13:00:31 CET Herve Beraud pisze: > > Hello everyone, > > > > Here is an email to officialize our position on Olso concerning our > > lower-constraints testing policy. > > Indeed we reached a consensus during our last meeting and all the Oslo > > cores who spoke agreed with this decision to drop the L.C tests [1]. > > > > So we already started to drop lower-constraints jobs on Oslo to unlock our > > gates. > > Sorry if my question shouldn't be in that thread but does that mean that other > projects should/can drop lower constraints jobs too? Is it some general, > OpenStack wide decision or it depends on the project? lower constratis is not a required part fo the PTI https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/pti/python.html https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/project-testing-interface.html so its technially a per project desision as far as i am aware.
while project were encouraged to adopt lower constratit testing we did not require all project to provide it and i belive there are some that dont unless im mistaken.
so neutron could drop lc testing too i belive if it desired too. unless im misinterperting things
> > > > > Thanks to everyone who joined the discussion and thanks for reading! > > > > [1] > > http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2021/oslo.2021-01-04-16.00.log. > > txt #topic Dropping lower-constraints testing > > > > Le ven. 18 déc. 2020 à 20:34, Moises Guimaraes de Medeiros < > > > > moguimar@redhat.com <mailto:moguimar@redhat.com>> a écrit : > > > +1 > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:46 PM Ghanshyam Mann <gmann@ghanshyammann.com <mailto:gmann@ghanshyammann.com>> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > ---- On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 08:54:26 -0600 hberaud <hberaud@redhat.com <mailto:hberaud@redhat.com>> > > > > > > > > wrote ---- > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > As you already surely know, we (the openstack project) currently face > > > > > > > > some issues with our lower-constraints jobs due to pip's latest resolver > > > > feature. > > > > > > > > > By discussing this topic with Thierry Carrez (ttx) from an oslo point > > > > > > > > of view, we reached the same conclusion that it is more appropriate to > > > > drop > > > > this kind of tests because the complexity and recurring pain neededto > > > > maintain them now exceeds the benefits provided by this mechanismes. > > > > > > > > > Also we should notice that the number of active maintainers is > > > > > > > > declining, so we think that this is the shortest path to solve this > > > > problem > > > > on oslo for now and for the future too. > > > > > > > > > In a first time I tried to fix our gates by fixing our > > > > > > > > lower-constraints project by project but with around ~36 projects to > > > > maintain this is a painful task, especially due to nested oslo layers > > > > inside oslo himself... I saw the face of the hell of dependencies. > > > > > > > > > So, in a second time I submitted a series of patches to drop these > > > > > > > > tests [1]. > > > > > > > > > But before moving further with that we would appreciate discussing > > > > > > > > this with the TC. For now the patches are ready and we just have to push > > > > the good button accordingly to our choices (+W or abandon). > > > > > > > > > Normally all the oslo projects that need to be fixed are covered by > > > > > > > > [1]. > > > > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > > +1, I think it's not worth to keep maintaining them which is taking too > > > > much effort. > > > > > > > > -gmann > > > > > > > > > Thanks for reading. > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22oslo_lc_drop%22+(status:open%20OR%2 > > > > 0status:merged)>> > > > > > -- > > > > > Hervé BeraudSenior Software Engineer at Red Hatirc: hberaudhttps:// > > > > > > > > github.com/4383/https://twitter.com/4383hberaud <http://github.com/4383/https://twitter.com/4383hberaud> > > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > > > wsFcBAABCAAQBQJb4AwCCRAHwXRBNkGNegAALSkQAHrotwCiL3VMwDR0vcja10Q+ > > > > > Kf31yCutl5bAlS7tOKpPQ9XN4oC0ZSThyNNFVrg8ail0SczHXsC4rOrsPblgGRN+ > > > > > RQLoCm2eO1AkB0ubCYLaq0XqSaO+Uk81QxAPkyPCEGT6SRxXr2lhADK0T86kBnMP > > > > > F8RvGolu3EFjlqCVgeOZaR51PqwUlEhZXZuuNKrWZXg/oRiY4811GmnvzmUhgK5G > > > > > 5+f8mUg74hfjDbR2VhjTeaLKp0PhskjOIKY3vqHXofLuaqFDD+WrAy/NgDGvN22g > > > > > glGfj472T3xyHnUzM8ILgAGSghfzZF5Skj2qEeci9cB6K3Hm3osj+PbvfsXE/7Kw > > > > > m/xtm+FjnaywZEv54uCmVIzQsRIm1qJscu20Qw6Q0UiPpDFqD7O6tWSRKdX11UTZ > > > > > hwVQTMh9AKQDBEh2W9nnFi9kzSSNu4OQ1dRMcYHWfd9BEkccezxHwUM4Xyov5Fe0 > > > > > qnbfzTB1tYkjU78loMWFaLa00ftSxP/DtQ//iYVyfVNfcCwfDszXLOqlkvGmY1/Y > > > > > F1ON0ONekDZkGJsDoS6QdiUSn8RZ2mHArGEWMV00EV5DCIbCXRvywXV43ckx8Z+3 > > > > > B8qUJhBqJ8RS2F+vTs3DTaXqcktgJ4UkhYC2c1gImcPRyGrK9VY0sCT+1iA+wp/O > > > > > v6rDpkeNksZ9fFSyoY2o > > > > > =ECSj > > > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Moisés Guimarães > > > > > > Software Engineer > > > > > > Red Hat <https://www.redhat.com> > > > > > > <https://red.ht/sig> > > > > -- > > Hervé Beraud > > Senior Software Engineer at Red Hat > > irc: hberaud > > https://github.com/4383/ > > https://twitter.com/4383hberaud > >
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