On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 10:41:31AM +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote:
Tony Breeds wrote:
On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 09:22:43PM -0500, Eric Fried wrote:
core-team sure, but what is it that a PTL does/can do that a SIG chair can't?
Ack patches in other repositories like release, governance, etc.? But yeah, no reason a SIG chair couldn't also do those things, as long as the vote is recognized the same way.
I can't speak to the TC but I think that a SIG chair would basically be a Liaison in the releases repo and we already know how to handle that.
So.. switching to my release management hat... that actually brings up an interesting point, and a good reason to keep PowerVMStackers and Winstackers the same.
Project teams basically produce "OpenStack" the software release, while SIGs work to make "OpenStack" more relevant for specific cases. While SIGs can produce code and can own git repositories, we currently have no SIG that owns *deliverables* being made part of the regular OpenStack release.
The release team only tracks project teams, and it's simpler if it stays that way. It's also a really good delineation as to what is project team territory and what is SIG territory.
Both PowerVMStackers or WinStackers currently produce deliverables that are released under a cycle-based model and are included in the final "OpenStack" release. Switching those teams to become SIGs would have an additional consequence: it would remove those deliverables from the "OpenStack" release.
Only *if* those repos don't get 'adopted' by another project. In the hypothetical example we're looking at: openstack/nova-powervm would come under the governance of nova (and therefore still have all the 'rights' of a project) (same with Telemetry and Neutron). The SIG would be there to maintain consistency across the 3 project teams. I feel like that's a better outcome but it isn't the actual proposal we started discussing and I kinda de-railed the conversation ... sorry.
So unless those teams actually want that, or the TC decides to do that, I don't think we should switch those teams to SIGs.
So the original proposal which would be a straight transition doesn't work for this reason which is good to know Yours Tony.