On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 6:14 PM Alfredo Moralejo Alonso <amoralej@redhat.com> wrote:


On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 4:44 PM Dmitry Tantsur <dtantsur@redhat.com> wrote:


On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 4:35 PM Ghanshyam Mann <gmann@ghanshyammann.com> wrote:
 ---- On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 09:20:39 -0600 Dmitry Tantsur <dtantsur@redhat.com> wrote ----
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 > On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 3:35 PM Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> wrote:
 > On 2021-11-26 14:29:53 +0100 (+0100), Dmitry Tantsur wrote:
 > [...]
 > > CentOS/RHEL ships 3.6 and a limited version of 3.8 and 3.9.
 > [...]
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 > Is this still true for CentOS Stream 9? The TC decision was to
 > support that instead of CentOS Stream 8 in Yoga.
 >
 > No. But Stream 9 is pretty much beta, so it's not a replacement for us (and we don't have nodes in nodepool with it even yet?).

I think here is the confusion. In TC, after checking with centos team impression was CentOS stream 9 is released and that is
what we should update In OpenStack testing. And then only we updated the centos stream 8 -> 9 and dropped py3.6 testing

- https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/815851/3..6/reference/runtimes/yoga.rst

I think there is an enormous perception gap between the CentOS team and the rest of the world.


So, CentOS Stream 9 was released, in the official mirrors and usable since some weeks ago[1][2]. We shouldn't consider it beta or something like that.

As mentioned, support for diskimage-builder has been introduced for CS9 and there are nodepool nodes ready for it. From RDO, we are providing RPMs for master branch content on CentOS Stream 9 [3] and actually we have been doing some tests. Actually, we have recently merged new jobs in puppet-openstack[4].

"It's usable since some weeks ago and we even added tests today" is not exactly reassuring :) The PTI uses wording "stable and LTS", which applies to Stream 9 no more than it applies to Fedora.

In the end, what we test with Bifrost is what we will recommend people to deploy it in production on. I do believe people can and should deploy on Stream 8 despite all the FUD around it, but I cannot do it for Stream 9 until RHEL 9 is out.

Dmitry
 


 
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