Thank you,
tbh I'd thought about taking the COA exam as I'm already working with
OpenStack daily, I hope the command line does not differ a lot
I agree that it should use a more recent version, but when checking
https://www.openstack.org/coa/ it still reports Ussuri as " OpenStack
release being tested" (and this was confirmed by support)
Best regards
Francesco Di Nucci
On 18/06/24 14:04, smooney@redhat.com wrote:
> On Tue, 2024-06-18 at 09:14 +0200, Francesco Di Nucci wrote:
>> Thank you,
>>
>> I know it's EOL but when asked the training support stated that they do
>> not have a concrete upgrade timeline yet
>>
>> Maybe I'll try with Tumbleweed, as EL8 is the only other supported OS
>> but Ussuri Devstack has incomplete support for it
> the COA exam shoudl not care about how the openstack cloud is installed
> or really about the version. i have not taken it but my understading is that
> its not inteded to be disto specific and fouces on the core element that
> are common to all clouds/installer not the specific fo devstack vs packstack ectra.
>
> so you should be able to use a master cloud ideally 2024.1 the current stable
> skip level upgrade release with any installer to prepare a cloud to use for the exam.
>
> i woudl also argue that any COA exam that is using an unsupported release shoudl not
> be able to provide accreditation anymore.
>
> while the core concepts have not change the landscape and feature set of openstack
> has evoleved alot.
>
> concepts like "Skip level upgrade Releases" and "Secure and consitent RBAC"
> are just two of the evolutions that have happend since then.
> that is ignoring the features actully added in the relevneet project and
> the evolution of technolgies liek the deprecation (and removal?) of policy.json in favor
> of policy.yaml for configuring custom policy
>
> the COA exam obviouly needs a semi stable base but realisticlly fi its
> not usign one fo the slurp releases at this point its not testing
> if the testee actully understand how to adminsiter a cloud that is reasonable
> to run in production today.
>
>> I tried the VM, but the 2019 one is unavailable and the 2020 one does
>> not start with LDDM failure.
>>
>> Out of curiosity, why does upstream training not happen anymore?
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Francesco Di Nucci
>>
>> On 17/06/24 20:36, Ghanshyam Mann wrote:
>>> ---- On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 02:22:29 -0700 Francesco Di Nucci wrote ---
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > I was planning on taking the COA exam, and as it's still tested on the
>>> > Ussuri release I wanted to create a local install to get used to the
>>> > differences with current releases.
>>> >
>>> > I have tried with PackStack but there seem to be some never fixed bug
>>> > with Galera setup, and with PackStack I wasn't able to make it work on
>>> > any "supported" OS
>>> > [bionic|stretch|jessie|f30|f31|opensuse-15.2|opensuse-tumbleweed|rhel8]
>>> > (either the Python version is too old, or packages install is not
>>> > supported on EL8, or repositories have been taken down etc etc...)
>>> >
>>> > Are there any pre-configured VMs that can be used for training? Or does
>>> > anyone know on which OS (outside of the ones before) could a Ussuri
>>> > setup with Devstack run?
>>>
>>> Ussuri is EOL and the COA exam should be moved to the recent supported
>>> releases. Anyway if it is on Ussuri then below is the information on DevStack
>>> for your local practice.
>>>
>>> DevStack Ussuri supports the below OS versions. The upstream CI has stopped
>>> testing it ~6 months before but you can give it a try.
>>>
>>> "bionic|stretch|jessie|f30|f31|opensuse-15.2|opensuse-tumbleweed|rhel8)"
>>>
>>> - https://github.com/openstack/devstack/blob/ussuri-eol/stack.sh#L224
>>>
>>> For pre-configured VM for training, we used to maintain it when there were
>>> upstream training was happening. Below is the location we used to have a
>>> working pre-configured VM image but this is really out of date and not
>>> sure if it will work or not
>>>
>>> - https://github.com/openstack/upstream-institute-virtual-environment
>>>
>>> Maybe you can try to check if this training page can be helpful for your
>>> exam preparation:
>>>
>>> - https://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/
>>>
>>> -gmann
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Thank you in advance
>>> >
>>> > Francesco Di Nucci
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
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