On Thu, May 20, 2021, 22:30 Sean Mooney <smooney@redhat.com> wrote:
On Thu, 2021-05-20 at 20:11 +0000, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
> On 2021-05-20 22:04:27 +0200 (+0200), Artem Goncharov wrote:
> > On Thu, May 20, 2021, 21:42 Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On 2021-05-20 21:28:26 +0200 (+0200), Dmitry Tantsur wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > > This is, indeed, not quite on-topic, but I'm advocating for
> > > > Matrix, mostly because that's where Mozilla went and because it
> > > > seems to check all the boxes.
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > It seems, from what little I've read, that Matrix servers can
> > > integrate with IRC server networks and bridge channels fairly
> > > seamlessly. If there were a Matrix bridge providing access to the
> > > same channels as people were participating in via IRC (wherever that
> > > happened to be), would that address your concerns?
> > >
> >
> > Same can Zulip do (our company runs own instance). But generally yes, this
> > would address at least my concerns.
>
> Similarly, it seems like projects could then add a Zulip/IRC bridge
> for their channels if they wanted (and maybe that would even
> three-way bridge IRC, Matrix, and Zulip users?).

matix has a number of clinets
https://matrix.org/clients/ including what looks like two web based ones
https://element.io/get-started and https://fluffychat.im/
not sure how well they work in practic it kind of sound like a matix bridge and
a hosted version fo say https://matrix.org/docs/projects/client/element whic is apache 2 liscents
woudl sovle that use case since ironci could say go to webchat.o.o and connect to the ironci channel
or soemthing like that kindo fo like how https://webchat.freenode.net/ works as web interface to irc.

if you click the try now button on https://matrix.org/ it send you to https://element.io/get-started where you can
open in bowser or down lond the moble or desktop aps so it looks liek its endorced by matix as how new user can get started quickly.

you could proably even user there hsoted version at https://app.element.io/?pk_vid=162154222536360a#/welcome

matrix have bridge to freenod and oftc already
https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/wiki/Bridged-IRC-networks


not really sure about zulip but there is a brdige bot https://matrix.org/docs/projects/bridge/matrix-zulip-bridgebot


Thanks guys, finally we reached constructive discussion and not the religious fight.

As long as bridge is repeating messages in both directions I think it can address most concerns. This feels cool, feels democratic, but not an unified way (not saying it's bad). Agree with Dmitriy that it feels like each team using some own stuff, and not as a single community. But giving teams flexibility is also great.