On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 3:51 PM Sean Mooney <smooney@redhat.com> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 2:42 AM Takashi Kajinami <tkajinam@redhat.com> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 2:28 AM Ghanshyam Mann <gmann@ghanshyammann.com>
---- On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 02:01:38 -0700 Slawek Kaplonski wrote ---
Hi,
Dnia wtorek, 11 kwietnia 2023 10:49:44 CEST Takashi Kajinami pisze:
This probably causes a bit wider effect than just retiring the
winstackers
project.
I see some projects (cinde, designate, glance and os-brick) depend on os-win which is under governance of winstackers and will be retired. Also, even some more projects (Neutron, os-vif, ovsdbapp, oslo.log, etc) supports windows without os-win.
If we retire Winstackers, then is it reasonable to remove all implementations to support Windows ?
That's very good question IMO. And, from Neutron perspective very important according to the removal of netifaces dependency - it would be much easier to remove it by removing all "windows" module from Neutron repo rather than refactoring it.
I agree. Thanks, Takashi for raising it.
If we retire Winstackers then yes, it means all dependencies of any functionality (user-facing or internal) need to be removed also. This is not a good situation for us as window support of OpenStack, if I am not wrong, Cloudbase is the only company maintaining and supporting the window support since starting. If there is any company having their customer based on windows then
in maintaining this project. Otherway (based on project wants and have
alternate way in projects for window support (the one you mentioned has window support ).
Please correct me if I'm wrong but what cloudbase has been maintaining is support for windows guest instead of windows host.
wrote: this is the right time to step up and help the bandwidth) is to implement the that is incorrect cloudbase provide the third party ci that test deploying openstack compute nodes on windows. that is the in/out of tree hyperV virt driver and the ovs on windows supprot used with os-vif and neuton ml2/ovs plugsins on windows.
Thanks. I was confused by some conversation logs in #openstack-tc and it was indeed mentioned cloudbase no longer maintains Winstackers (= Windows host support) earlier in this thread.
while we are happy to review fixes for hyper v /windows hows we now no longer have any way to test these changes in ci ro locally as we don't have a maintained way to deploy devstack on hyper v/windows hosts.
out side fo the cloud base init package which is optional there is no depency on cloudbase to support windows guest. that is unaffected. but windows host support is now effectivly unmainated and untested.
I completely agree with this statement.
My previous question was about Windows host support (whether we can remove all implementations to run OpenStack services in windows hosts, instead of linux hosts) and guest support can be kept now.
-gmann
On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 6:29 AM Ghanshyam Mann
gmann@ghanshyammann.com>
wrote:
Thanks, Lucian, for the updates and email link.
As the next step, we will discuss it in TC and take the next action.
-gmann
---- On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 00:11:38 -0700 Lucian Petrut wrote
> Hi, > Thanks for reaching out. As mentioned here [1], Cloudbase Solutions can no longer lead the Winstackers project. Since there weren’t any other interested parties, I think there’s no other option but to retire the project. > [1]
> Regards,Lucian Petrut > > On 22 Mar 2023, at 19:43, Ghanshyam Mann gmann@ghanshyammann.com> wrote: > Hi Lukas, > > I am reaching out to you as you were PTL for OpenStack Winstackers project in the last cycle. > > There is no PTL candidate for the next cycle (2023.2), and it is on the leaderless project list. Please > check if you or anyone you know would like to lead this
> > - https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/2023.2-leaderless > > Also, if anyone else would like to help leading this project,
https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-November/031044... project. this is
time to let TC knows. > > -gmann > >
-- Slawek Kaplonski Principal Software Engineer Red Hat