Kendall Nelson <kennelson11@gmail.com> writes:
> On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 9:26 AM Doug Hellmann <doug@doughellmann.com> wrote:
>
>> Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> writes:
>>
>> > On 2019-02-04 17:31:46 +0900 (+0900), Ghanshyam Mann wrote:
>> > [...]
>> >> If I recall it correctly from Board+TC meeting, TC is looking for
>> >> a new home for this list ? Or we continue to maintain this in TC
>> >> itself which should not be much effort I feel.
>> > [...]
>> >
>> > It seems like you might be referring to the in-person TC meeting we
>> > held on the Sunday prior to the Stein PTG in Denver (Alan from the
>> > OSF BoD was also present). Doug's recap can be found in the old
>> > openstack-dev archive here:
>> >
>> >
>> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134744.html
>> >
>> > Quoting Doug, "...it wasn't clear that the TC was the best group to
>> > manage a list of 'roles' or other more detailed information. We
>> > discussed placing that information into team documentation or
>> > hosting it somewhere outside of the governance repository where more
>> > people could contribute." (If memory serves, this was in response to
>> > earlier OSF BoD suggestions that retooling the Help Wanted list to
>> > be a set of business-case-focused job descriptions might garner more
>> > uptake from the organizations they represent.)
>> > --
>> > Jeremy Stanley
>>
>> Right, the feedback was basically that we might have more luck
>> convincing companies to provide resources if we were more specific about
>> how they would be used by describing the work in more detail. When we
>> started thinking about how that change might be implemented, it seemed
>> like managing the information a well-defined job in its own right, and
>> our usual pattern is to establish a group of people interested in doing
>> something and delegating responsibility to them. When we talked about it
>> in the TC meeting in Denver we did not have any TC members volunteer to
>> drive the implementation to the next step by starting to recruit a team.
>>
>> During the Train series goal discussion in Berlin we talked about having
>> a goal of ensuring that each team had documentation for bringing new
>> contributors onto the team.
>
>
> This was something I thought the docs team was working on pushing with all
> of the individual projects, but I am happy to help if they need extra
> hands. I think this is suuuuuper important. Each Upstream Institute we
> teach all the general info we can, but we always mention that there are
> project specific ways of handling things and project specific processes. If
> we want to lower the barrier for new contributors, good per project
> documentation is vital.
>
>
>> Offering specific mentoring resources seems
>> to fit nicely with that goal, and doing it in each team's repository in
>> a consistent way would let us build a central page on docs.openstack.org
>> to link to all of the team contributor docs, like we link to the user
>> and installation documentation, without requiring us to find a separate
>> group of people to manage the information across the entire community.
>
>
> I think maintaining the project liaison list[1] that the First Contact SIG
> has kind of does this? Between that list and the mentoring cohort program
> that lives under the D&I WG, I think we have things covered. Its more a
> matter of publicizing those than starting something new I think?
>
>
>>
>> So, maybe the next step is to convince someone to champion a goal of
>> improving our contributor documentation, and to have them describe what
>> the documentation should include, covering the usual topics like how to
>> actually submit patches as well as suggestions for how to describe areas
>> where help is needed in a project and offers to mentor contributors.
>
>> Does anyone want to volunteer to serve as the goal champion for that?
>>
>>
> I can probably draft a rough outline of places where I see projects diverge
> and make a template, but where should we have that live?
>
> /me imagines a template similar to the infra spec template
Could we put it in the project team guide?
>
>
>> --
>> Doug
>>
>>
> [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/First_Contact_SIG#Project_Liaisons
--
Doug