On 03/04/20 09:30 +0200, Jean-Philippe Evrard wrote:
Hello,
On Thu, 2020-04-02 at 12:38 +0200, Dmitry Tantsur wrote: <snip> (snipped) I'm referring to a very narrow sense of Nova+company. I.e.
a solution for providing virtual machines booting from virtual volumes on virtual networks. Ironic does not clearly fit there, nor does, say, Zuul.
Got it. That's not my understanding of what OpenStack is, but I concede that I might have a different view than most.
+1000 and I hope that we're all moving beyond this narrow understanding of what OpenStack is. I think of myself as working on OpenStack because I work on self-service storage cloud infrastructure with hard multi-tenant separatiion in a community committed to a design and development process committed to The Four Opens [1]. None of that requires that the consumers of this self-service storage infrastructure be virtual machines booting from virtual volumes on virtual networks. Sure, Nova VMs consume Manila shares. But so do bare metal machines and container workloads (via CSI plugins) themselves running on VMs and running on bare metal, where the hosts theselves may or may not be part of an OpenStack cloud. It would be interesting to see the question at hand about Ironic framed in the context of the recent OpenStack Technical Vision [2]. Is there an Ironic Vision that does not really align with it? -- Tom Barron [1] https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/opens.html [2] https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/technical-vision.html