Le mer. 12 avr. 2023 à 08:56, Sean Mooney smooney@redhat.com a écrit :
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 2:42 AM Takashi Kajinami tkajinam@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 2:28 AM Ghanshyam Mann gmann@ghanshyammann.com
wrote:
---- On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 02:01:38 -0700 Slawek Kaplonski wrote ---
Hi,
Dnia wtorek, 11 kwietnia 2023 10:49:44 CEST Takashi Kajinami pisze:
This probably causes a bit wider effect than just retiring the
winstackers
project.
I see some projects (cinde, designate, glance and os-brick) depend
on
os-win which is under governance of winstackers and will be retired. Also, even some more projects (Neutron, os-vif, ovsdbapp, oslo.log, etc) supports windows without os-win.
If we retire Winstackers, then is it reasonable to remove all implementations to support Windows ?
That's very good question IMO. And, from Neutron perspective very
important according to the removal of netifaces dependency - it would be much easier to remove it by removing all "windows" module from Neutron repo rather than refactoring it.
I agree. Thanks, Takashi for raising it.
If we retire Winstackers then yes, it means all dependencies of any
functionality (user-facing or internal)
need to be removed also. This is not a good situation for us as window
support of OpenStack, if I am
not wrong, Cloudbase is the only company maintaining and supporting the
window support since starting.
If there is any company having their customer based on windows then
this is the right time to step up and help
in maintaining this project. Otherway (based on project wants and have
the bandwidth) is to implement the
alternate way in projects for window support (the one you mentioned has
window support ).
Please correct me if I'm wrong but what cloudbase has been maintaining
is support for windows guest
instead of windows host.
that is incorrect cloudbase provide the third party ci that test deploying openstack compute nodes on windows. that is the in/out of tree hyperV virt driver and the ovs on windows supprot used with os-vif and neuton ml2/ovs plugsins on windows.
while we are happy to review fixes for hyper v /windows hows we now no longer have any way to test these changes in ci ro locally as we don't have a maintained way to deploy devstack on hyper v/windows hosts.
out side fo the cloud base init package which is optional there is no depency on cloudbase to support windows guest. that is unaffected. but windows host support is now effectivly unmainated and untested.
FWIW, the Nova project usually follows a procedure for virt drivers that are no longer tested by a 3rd party CI. If no maintainers can continue to verify that a in-tree virt driver won't have any regression, then the Nova community deprecates the virt driver.
Here, that means that by a next release, we will deprecate Hyper-V virt driver unless someone tells us that they can help. -Sylvain (which will create a specific ML thread for it)
My previous question was about Windows host support (whether we can remove
all implementations to run OpenStack services in windows hosts, instead
of linux hosts) and guest support
can be kept now.
-gmann
On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 6:29 AM Ghanshyam Mann
gmann@ghanshyammann.com>
wrote:
Thanks, Lucian, for the updates and email link.
As the next step, we will discuss it in TC and take the next
action.
-gmann
---- On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 00:11:38 -0700 Lucian Petrut wrote
> Hi, > Thanks for reaching out. As mentioned here [1], Cloudbase
Solutions can
no longer lead the Winstackers project. Since there weren’t any
other
interested parties, I think there’s no other option but to
retire the
project. > [1]
https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2022-November/031044...
> Regards,Lucian Petrut > > On 22 Mar 2023, at 19:43, Ghanshyam Mann
gmann@ghanshyammann.com>
wrote: > Hi Lukas, > > I am reaching out to you as you were PTL for OpenStack
Winstackers
project in the last cycle. > > There is no PTL candidate for the next cycle (2023.2), and it
is on the
leaderless project list. Please > check if you or anyone you know would like to lead this
project.
> > - https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/2023.2-leaderless > > Also, if anyone else would like to help leading this project,
this is
time to let TC knows. > > -gmann > >
-- Slawek Kaplonski Principal Software Engineer Red Hat