Hi Sean, On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 2:06 PM Sean Mooney <smooney@redhat.com> wrote:
On Thu, 2020-09-10 at 13:10 +0200, Radosław Piliszek wrote:
Hi fellow OpenStackers,
The subject is the question I am posing. The general recommendation is to use Storyboard for new projects [1]. However, Storyboard does not seem to be receiving enough love recently [2] [3]. It's generally deemed as slow [4] and is missing quite a few usability enhancements [2]. Considering the alternative, and the actual previous recommendation, is Launchpad, I find it no-brainer to revert to recommending Launchpad still, even paving a way for projects wishing to escape the Storyboard nightmare. :-)
Don't get me wrong, I really like the Story/Task orientation but Storyboard results in a frustrating experience. In addition to being slow, it has issues with search/filter, sorting and pagination which make issue browsing an utter pain. I know Launchpad is not without issues but it's certainly a much better platform at the moment. And many projects are still there.
The Launchpad-Storyboard split is also introducing confusion for users [5] and coordinability issues for teams as we need to cross-link manually to get proper visibility.
All in all, I ask you to consider recommending Launchpad again and encourage OpenStack projects to move to Launchpad. some porjects like nova and neutron never left launchpad and personally i had hopped they never would so that is still my preference but as far as i know there is notihgn preventing any project form move too or moving from launchpad as it stands.
Kolla did neither. We only have Kayobe that's on Storyboard (due to recommendation). I did not want to sound like it was enforced. It is not - as far as I understand it. The thing is: recommending a perceivably worse solution does not seem like a good idea to me. It also does not benefit the scene to split it between two worlds. -yoctozepto
if kolla* waht move they can without needing to change any other policies the cookie cutter templeate for seting up new repo also support both you can select it when you create the repo. im not sure what the default is currently but you are given the choice if i recall correctly.
Extra note: I find it in a similar spot as ask.o.o - nice it has been tried, but unfortunately it did not stand the test of time.
[1] https://docs.opendev.org/opendev/infra-manual/latest/creators.html [2] https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/opendev/storyboard [3] https://opendev.org/opendev/storyboard/commits/branch/master [4] https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2007829 [5] https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000890
-yoctozepto