February 2025 - openstack-discuss

[all][dev][ops][tc] Bridging the gap between community and contributing orgs
by Jeremy Stanley 20 May '25

20 May '25

The tl;dr on this is that I'm opening a broad community discussion on how we can, collectively through improved communication, better bring together our established contributors with casual and prospective contributors who struggle to find successful patterns of contribution, so that we might all support each other in order to benefit OpenStack as a whole. Read on for details... OpenStack's TC has requested that foundation staff, when in conversation with representatives of member organizations, encourage participation in the project and collect feedback on any related challenges those organizations encounter in their attempts to do so. In order to better understand the feedback and brainstorm achievable recommendations for the broader community[*], Community Managers on the foundation staff started to work with a small focus group of established contributors with a solid understanding of what successful patterns of contribution look like. It also came to light that established contributors experience many of the same sorts of challenges, even more so if they don't have the luxury of focusing full-time upstream, and so success often comes down to knowing how to effectively navigate those challenges. The community's goal with this exercise is to improve everyone's experience, and your help is needed to do that! The most common themes reported by those struggling to contribute are not related to tooling or workflow confusion, but instead seem to come down to basic communication challenges. Ideas so far to address these gaps include: * Review bandwidth - Ensure contributors and companies understand the importance and benefits of code review - Incentivize and credit meaningful "+1" reviews more - Understand that the volume of changes and limited reviewer bandwidth often means proposals aren't reviewed quickly (or at all), and their proponents may need some additional tenacity and engagement with the team to get their work noticed - Utilize "review dashboards" as a way to find stale changes which have fallen through the cracks * Review strategy and etiquette - Be clear about the meaning of votes on changes, especially negative ones, and set explicit timelines for things like "procedural -2" or WIP blocks when their approval needs to be delayed - Focus on comments and requests that affect whether or not the change can be merged after the fixes are submitted, rather than requesting trivial adjustments to an unsuitable change which has more fundamental problems - Reciprocate with reviews of changes from new reviewers you see leaving insubstantial reviews, demonstrating to them what deeper and more meaningful reviewing looks like * Mentoring newcomers - Established contributors with sufficient bandwidth can help mentoring newcomers, potential core reviewers and new leaders - Mentoring can happen as part of internship programs as well as by helping newcomers determined to become active contributors; both ways should be embraced and utilized What challenges are you facing? And, how would you improve them? Two weeks from now, we'll have a forum session at the OpenInfra Summit Asia in Suwon[**] where our community can refine these possible approaches and integrate others, as well as bring attention to them and promote their application. I've also proposed a similar forum session for OpenInfra Days North America in Indianapolis a month after that, where we can hopefully continue this conversation. The goal for this multi-stage effort is to improve the contribution experience for established participants, casual contributors and newcomers alike. While it's easy to jump to blaming in these situations, it will be far more productive if we can focus on the challenges and experiences that we would each like to remove or improve for ourselves and others in our community. As we find ways together to improve our efficiency, we can reduce the load on all contributors and lower the barriers for people to join and participate. [*] https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/r.2205024e55689bccb82c20c960853cb5 [**] https://2024.openinfraasia.org/a/schedule#view=calendar&title=Bridging%20th… -- Jeremy Stanley

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[ops][neutron] Neutron-db-manage upgrade from Antelope to Bobcat fails with "foreign key constraint 'porthints_ibfk_1' are incompatible" error
by federica fanzago 20 May '25

20 May '25

Dear all, we are running an OpenStack deployment Yoga on AlmaLinux 9.5 and we are attempting the upgrade Openstack up to Caracal release, one release at time (Zed--Antelope--Bobcat--Caracal) The procedure we are following is to shut down all openstack services, to remove the "old" openstack release and to install the new one, upgrading all service databases. This procedure works well for Zed and Antelope, but during the installation of the Bobcat release, the Neutron database upgrade fails when creating the new "porthints" table. The command we are using is su -s /bin/sh -c "neutron-db-manage --config-file /etc/neutron/neutron.conf --config-file /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini upgrade head" neutron and the error message we receive is ... File "/usr/lib/python3.9/site-packages/pymysql/err.py", line 107, in raise_mysql_exception raise errorclass(errno, errval) sqlalchemy.exc.OperationalError: (pymysql.err.OperationalError) (3780, "Referencing column 'port_id' and referenced column 'id' in foreign key constraint 'porthints_ibfk_1' are incompatible.") [SQL: CREATE TABLE porthints ( port_id VARCHAR(36) NOT NULL, hints VARCHAR(4095) NOT NULL, PRIMARY KEY (port_id), FOREIGN KEY(port_id) REFERENCES ports (id) ON DELETE CASCADE )ENGINE=InnoDB ... Our "ports" table uses the collation utf8mb3_general_ci mysql> SHOW FULL COLUMNS FROM ports; +------------------+--------------+--------------------+------+-----+---------+-------+---------------------------------+---------+ | Field | Type | Collation | Null | Key | Default | Extra | Privileges | Comment | +------------------+--------------+--------------------+------+-----+---------+-------+---------------------------------+---------+ | project_id | varchar(255) | utf8mb3_general_ci | YES | MUL | NULL | | select,insert,update,references | | | id | varchar(36) | utf8mb3_general_ci | NO | PRI | NULL | | select,insert,update,references | | | name | varchar(255) | utf8mb3_general_ci | YES | | NULL | | select,insert,update,references | | | network_id | varchar(36) | utf8mb3_general_ci | NO | MUL | NULL | | select,insert,update,references | | | mac_address | varchar(32) | utf8mb3_general_ci | NO | | NULL | | select,insert,update,references | | | admin_state_up | tinyint(1) | NULL | NO | | NULL | | select,insert,update,references | | | status | varchar(16) | utf8mb3_general_ci | NO | | NULL | | select,insert,update,references | | | device_id | varchar(255) | utf8mb3_general_ci | NO | MUL | NULL | | select,insert,update,references | | | device_owner | varchar(255) | utf8mb3_general_ci | NO | | NULL | | select,insert,update,references | | | standard_attr_id | bigint | NULL | NO | UNI | NULL | | select,insert,update,references | | | ip_allocation | varchar(16) | utf8mb3_general_ci | YES | | NULL | | select,insert,update,references | | +------------------+--------------+--------------------+------+-----+---------+-------+---------------------------------+---------+ in Bobcat the collation required for the new "porthints" table is latin1_swedish_ci MariaDB [neutron]> show create table porthints; +-----------+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Table | Create Table | +-----------+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | porthints | CREATE TABLE `porthints` ( `port_id` varchar(36) NOT NULL, `hints` varchar(4095) NOT NULL, PRIMARY KEY (`port_id`), CONSTRAINT `porthints_ibfk_1` FOREIGN KEY (`port_id`) REFERENCES `ports` (`id`) ON DELETE CASCADE ) ENGINE=InnoDB DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1 COLLATE=latin1_swedish_ci | So, we have tried to create the porthints table in mysql, forcing the collation to utf8mb3_general_ci mysql> CREATE TABLE porthints ( port_id VARCHAR(36) NOT NULL, hints VARCHAR(4095) NOT NULL, PRIMARY KEY (port_id), FOREIGN KEY(port_id) REFERENCES ports (id) ON DELETE CASCADE )ENGINE=InnoDB DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8 DEFAULT COLLATE utf8mb3_general_ci; and commenting out the creation of the new table in the neutron code /usr/lib/python3.9/site-packages/neutron/db/migration/alembic_migrations/versions/2023.2/expand/6f1145bff34c_port_hints.py. In this way, the upgrade works, but we encounter the same kind of problem during the upgrade to Caracal, specifically with the creation of the new table porthardwareoffloadtype. Have you already encountered this issue during the Neutron upgrade? Do you have any suggestions on how to upgrade the neutron DB, without manually creating new tables? Thanks a lot, cheers, Federica -- Federica Fanzago INFN Sezione di Padova Via Marzolo, 8 35131 Padova - Italy Tel: +39 049.967.7367 --

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[manila] Removal of the Standalone CephFS NFS protocol helper in Epoxy
by Ashley Rodriguez 02 May '25

02 May '25

Hi zorillas! As per subject line, we will be deprecating the standalone CephFS NFS protocol helper in this cycle. This is following our deprecation warning we put out in 2024.1 / Caracal [1] [2]. We've supported using a clustered Ceph NFS service since the Zed release. We've also added upgrade helpers to migrate from a standalone NFS-Ganesha service to the ceph-orch-deployed clustered NFS service; this code was backported to stable/2023.1 (Antelope). Although the upgrade path is disruptive, there is a UX improvement in Manila to ease this migration through surfacing “preferred” export paths. Moving forward, deployments must have “cephfs_nfs_cluster_id” in your configuration, otherwise the driver will fail to start. Manila will not make any export changes to NFS-Ganesha, so upgrading manila without an NFS cluster will mean that only the control plane is not going to work; but, data plane will remain unaffected. To assist migration, admins can also configure "cephfs_ganesha_export_ips" (or alternatively, "cephfs_ganesha_server_ip") alongside "cephfs_nfs_cluster_id". Setting these options will allow the CephFS driver to report additional export paths. These additional export paths will have the "preferred" metadata key set to False. Best, Manila team [1] https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/912648 [2] https://docs.openstack.org/manila/2024.2/configuration/shared-file-systems/…

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Fwd: DPDK+OVS with OpenStack
by Mark Wittling 23 Apr '25

23 Apr '25

Looking for someone who knows OpenStack with OpenVSwitch, and in addition to that, DPDK with OpenStack and OVS.I am using OpenStack Queens, with OpenVSwitch. The architecture I am using is documented here: https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/queens/admin/deploy-ovs-provider.htmlThe OVS I am using on the Compute Node, is compiled with DPDK, and I have enabled the datapath to netdev (DPDK) on br-prv (provider network bridge), and br-tun (tunneling bridge). But these two bridges, br-tun and br-prv, are patched into another OpenStack bridge, called br-int. I wasn’t actually sure about whether to tinker with this bridge, and wondered what datapath it was using.Then, I realized there is a parameter in the openvswitch_agent.ini file, which I will list here: # OVS datapath to use. 'system' is the default value and corresponds to the # kernel datapath. To enable the userspace datapath set this value to 'netdev'. # (string value) # Possible values: # system - <No description provided> # netdev - <No description provided> #datapath_type = system datapath_type = netdev So in tinkering with this, what I realized, is that when you set this datapath_type to system or netdev, it will adjust the br-int bridge to that datapath type.So here is my question. How can I launch a non-DPDK VM, if all of the bridges are using the netdev datapath type?Here is another question. What if one of the flavors don’t have the largepages property set on them? I assumed OpenStack would revert to a system datapath and not use DPDK for those VM interfaces. Well, I found out in testing, that is not the case. If you set all your bridges up for netdev, and you don’t set the property on the Flavor of the VM (largepages), the VM will launch, but it simply won’t work.Is there no way, on a specific Compute Host, to support both DPDK (netdev datapaths) and non-DPDK (system datapaths)?Either on a VM interface level (VM has one interface that is netdev DPDK and another that is system datapath non-DPDK)?Or on a VM by VM basis (VM 1 has 1 or more netdev datapath interfaces and VM 2 has 1 or more system datapath interfaces)?Am I right here? Once you set up a Compute Host for DPDK, it’s DPDK or nothing on that Compute Host? (edited)

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How to config DPDK compute in OVN
by dangerzone ar 22 Apr '25

22 Apr '25

Hi....as far I understand ovs does support dpdk compute to be deployed. I'm referring to the guideline ' *https://docs.openstack.org/networking-ovn/queens/admin/dpdk.html <https://docs.openstack.org/networking-ovn/queens/admin/dpdk.html>* ' ... It's too brief.. May I know how to config dpdk compute in OVN networking openstack? Hope someone could help what is the config to be done.... Currently compute is run without dpdk over openstack train ovn based. Please need some info on how I can proceed. Thank you

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[oslo] python-consul2 is unmaintained
by Takashi Kajinami 21 Apr '25

21 Apr '25

Hello, I recently noticed that python-consul2 library[1], which is used by the consul coordination driver in tooz, hasn't been updated for 3+ years. Looking at issues in the project, there is an indication that the library is not compatible with ACL API in consul >= 1.11[2]. There is another fork created[3] and this includes fixes to support new API endpoints. Although the driver in tooz does not directly use the feature, I think it's better to discuss our plan to mitigate risks caused by the unmaintained library. As far as I can think of, there are three options now 1. Deprecate consul driver and remove it 2. Keep using python-consul2 now. At least basic functionality is proven to work by our functional tests (Note that the tests do not cover all configuration patterns) 3. Replace python-consul2 by py-consul Before we start the overall discussions I'd like to ask a few questions to the wider audience, as our inputs. - Is anyone using the consul coordination driver now ? - Does anyone have experience with python-consul2 and/or py-consul ? Note that this discussion affects the http messaging driver[4] currently proposed, because it also requires client library to communicate with Consul. Actually I noticed the situation when I noticed that the requirement check job is failing because the library is not part of global requirements list... Thank you, Takashi Kajinami [1] https://github.com/poppyred/python-consul2 [2] https://github.com/poppyred/python-consul2/issues/42 [3] https://github.com/criteo-forks/py-consul [4] https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo.messaging/+/912499 -- Takashi Kajinami irc: tkajinam github: https://github.com/kajinamit launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~kajinamit

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[octavia] Purging ERROR'ed amphora and load balancers stuck in transitional states
by Paul Browne 11 Apr '25

11 Apr '25

Hello Octavia users, For a while I've been trying to find a systematic way to remove Octavia LBs+Amphora that have become stuck in ERROR or transitional PENDING_* states ; $ openstack loadbalancer amphora list -f value | grep ERROR a2323f14-3aaa-418a-8249-111aaa9c21fe 1fa7bd54-f60c-420c-94f3-d4c02f03d4fe ERROR MASTER 10.8.0.242 192.168.3.247 e5b236ba-e7ee-4ed7-9f58-57ce7a408489 1fa7bd54-f60c-420c-94f3-d4c02f03d4fe ERROR BACKUP 10.8.0.190 192.168.3.247 6b556f28-93c9-49dd-b6ee-4379288e7957 d5e402fe-2c4b-49af-a700-532cb408cee5 ERROR MASTER 10.8.0.39 192.168.3.126 c669db5d-8686-4d5c-9e95-e02030b34301 d5e402fe-2c4b-49af-a700-532cb408cee5 ERROR BACKUP 10.8.0.174 192.168.3.126 $ openstack loadbalancer list -f value | grep -vi active 1fa7bd54-f60c-420c-94f3-d4c02f03d4fe k8s-clusterapi-cluster-default-ci-6386871107-kube-upgrade-kubeapi 3a06571936a0424bb40bc5c672c4ccb1 192.168.3.247 PENDING_UPDATE amphora d5e402fe-2c4b-49af-a700-532cb408cee5 k8s-clusterapi-cluster-default-ci-6386871107-latest-kubeapi 3a06571936a0424bb40bc5c672c4ccb1 192.168.3.126 PENDING_DELETE amphora These resources are marked immutable and so cannot be failed over or deleted; $ openstack loadbalancer amphora failover a2323f14-3aaa-418a-8249-111aaa9c21fe Load Balancer 1fa7bd54-f60c-420c-94f3-d4c02f03d4fe is immutable and cannot be updated. (HTTP 409) (Request-ID: req-6e66c4e8-c3d3-4549-a03c-367017c8c8b3) $ openstack loadbalancer failover 1fa7bd54-f60c-420c-94f3-d4c02f03d4fe Invalid state PENDING_UPDATE of loadbalancer resource 1fa7bd54-f60c-420c-94f3-d4c02f03d4fe (HTTP 409) (Request-ID: req-84b44212-e7a8-4101-a16f-18c774c0577e) The backing Nova instances for these Amphora do seem to exist and be in good working order. Is there any API way to purge these out of Octavia's service state, or would (very careful) DB hackery be required here? Many thanks, Paul Browne ******************* Paul Browne Research Computing Platforms University Information Services Roger Needham Building JJ Thompson Avenue University of Cambridge Cambridge United Kingdom E-Mail: pfb29(a)cam.ac.uk<mailto:pfb29@cam.ac.uk> Tel: 0044-1223-746548 *******************

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GPU PCI passthrough woes.
by Andy Speagle 10 Apr '25

10 Apr '25

Hey Folks, I could use a little assistance getting GPU passthrough working. I had this working already for one flavor of nvidia gpu... and I've added some hosts with a much newer gpu... I've updated the pci_alias and pci_passthrough variables and those seem to be getting set properly in nova.conf passthrough_whitelist = [{"vendor_id":"10de", "product_id":"1b06"},{"vendor_id":"10de", "product_id":"26b9"}] alias = {"name": "gpu", "product_id": "1b06", "vendor_id": "10de"} alias = {"name": "gpu-l40s", "product_id": "26b9", "vendor_id": "10de"} I believe I have all of the iommu stuff configured and have the pci- stub module entries... dmesg output shows that the GPUs are being claimed by the stub module. $ openstack flavor show t1.small_gpu_l40s +----------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Field | Value | +----------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | OS-FLV-DISABLED:disabled | False | | OS-FLV-EXT-DATA:ephemeral | 0 | | access_project_ids | None | | description | None | | disk | 0 | | id | af70c94e-0026-4a39-bc1e-dfb93b286a54 | | name | t1.small_gpu_l40s | | os-flavor-access:is_public | True | | properties | pci_passthrough:alias='gpu-l40s:1' | | ram | 2048 | | rxtx_factor | 1.0 | | swap | 0 | | vcpus | 1 | +----------------------------+--------------------------------------+ Yet... I can't seem to get an instance to run using that new flavor... keeps complaining about there not being enough hosts available. Fault: code: 500 created: 2024-10-30T02:04:33Z message: "No valid host was found. There are not enough hosts available." details: | Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/nova/conductor/manager.py", line 1580, in schedule_and_build_instances host_lists = self._schedule_instances(context, request_specs[0], File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/nova/conductor/manager.py", line 940, in _schedule_instances host_lists = self.query_client.select_destinations( File "/usr/lib/python3/dist- packages/nova/scheduler/client/query.py", line 41, in select_destinations return self.scheduler_rpcapi.select_destinations(context, spec_obj, File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/nova/scheduler/rpcapi.py", line 160, in select_destinations return cctxt.call(ctxt, 'select_destinations', **msg_args) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist- packages/oslo_messaging/rpc/client.py", line 189, in call result = self.transport._send( File "/usr/lib/python3/dist- packages/oslo_messaging/transport.py", line 123, in _send return self._driver.send(target, ctxt, message, File "/usr/lib/python3/dist- packages/oslo_messaging/_drivers/amqpdriver.py", line 689, in send return self._send(target, ctxt, message, wait_for_reply, timeout, File "/usr/lib/python3/dist- packages/oslo_messaging/_drivers/amqpdriver.py", line 681, in _send raise result nova.exception_Remote.NoValidHost_Remote: No valid host was found. There are not enough hosts available. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3/dist- packages/oslo_messaging/rpc/server.py", line 241, in inner return func(*args, **kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/nova/scheduler/manager.py", line 223, in select_destinations selections = self._select_destinations( File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/nova/scheduler/manager.py", line 250, in _select_destinations selections = self._schedule( File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/nova/scheduler/manager.py", line 416, in _schedule self._ensure_sufficient_hosts( File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/nova/scheduler/manager.py", line 455, in _ensure_sufficient_hosts raise exception.NoValidHost(reason=reason) nova.exception.NoValidHost: No valid host was found. There are not enough hosts available. Any clues on how/where to dig into this more to see what might be missing? Thanks. -- Andy Speagle

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bug report
by Xavier Benjamin 05 Apr '25

05 Apr '25

whenever i try to connect to trove pts servers it would usually say fails to authenticate or something. Can you fix that please?

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[openstack-helm] Merge openstack-helm and openstack-helm-infra git repos
by Vladimir Kozhukalov 01 Apr '25

01 Apr '25

Hi dear Openstack-Helmers, I would like to suggest merging the two project git repos: https://opendev.org/openstack/openstack-helm-infra.git https://opendev.org/openstack/openstack-helm.git At some point it seemed reasonable to have separate git repos for openstack and infrastructure charts. But now it looks like we are experiencing more cons than pros. When working on some features we are forced to prepare sets of interdependent patches. Some code can be deduplicated. Also when we publish charts we append two commit hashes as package metadata. Also we can reduce the number of test jobs if we have all chats in one repo. Other people also proposed this earlier. So if there are no objections let's make it done. I understand this is going to affect many of our users. Please express your opinions so we don't break any downstream. If we all agree about this, then I would say we can do this in the mid of March/2025 before 2025.2 PTG. The procedure is going to be smth. like 1. Freeze the infra repo and prepare retirement PSs for it 2. Merge openstack-helm-infra repo into openstack-helm ``` git clone https://opendev.org/openstack/openstack-helm.git cd openstack-helm git remote add infra https://opendev.org/openstack/openstack-helm-infra.git git fetch infra git checkout -b infra infra/master git checkout master git merge --allow-unrelated-histories infra # resolve not so many conflicts git review ``` 3. Accept merger PS 4. Update documentation 5. Accept infra retirement PSs (openstack-helm-infra and project-config) -- Best regards, Kozhukalov Vladimir

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