January 2025 - openstack-discuss - lists.openstack.org

[neutron] neutron-core/networking-ovn-core consolidation
by Brian Haley 03 Feb '25

03 Feb '25

Hello Neutrinos: I noticed the other day we still have the networking-ovn-core group [0] included in the neutron-core group [1], a left-over from when we merged the OVN code into the Neutron repo in Ussuri. Most people in the networking-ovn-core group no longer contribute to Neutron, except for one - Terry Wilson (otherwiseguy). In order to cleanup a little I'm going to consolidate things and add Terry as a member of the neutron-core group, and remove the import. Since he has basically been operating as a Neutron core reviewer already for years, I don't think we need to vote on this. So welcome officially Terry! -Brian, Neutron PTL [0] https://review.opendev.org/admin/groups/ecdeda6cb5657af51f20b282cd0525cb7e6… [1] https://review.opendev.org/admin/groups/38

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OpenStack BoF at FOSDEM
by Amy Marrich 03 Feb '25

03 Feb '25

Hey all, Sorry for the late promotion but we will be having an OpenStack BoF at FOSDEM[0] on Saturday at 16:00 in room AW1.121. Hope to see you there! Amy 0 - https://fosdem.org/2025/schedule/event/fosdem-2025-4885-openstack-community…

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[glance][security][vmt] propose Cyril Roelandt for glance coresec
by Brian Rosmaita 31 Jan '25

31 Jan '25

I'd like to propose an update to the Glance Core Security Contacts team [0], which handles embargoed security issues for Glance project deliverables. The OpenStack Vulnerability Management Team prefers to keep the project core security teams small (because otherwise it kind of defeats the point of having embargoed private security issues). Thus, the changes I propose will keep the glance-coresec team at its current size: Add: Cyril Roelandt (croelandt on IRC). Cyril has been a Glance core since June 2021 and is a thorough and respected reviewer and developer; he also organizes the recurring Glance Review Party. Remove: Erno Kuvaja (jokke on IRC). Erno has been focusing his time away from Glance. On behalf of the Glance project team, I thank Erno for his past service on glance-coresec, and note that Erno continues to participate in the Glance project as a "regular" glance core. If you have any concerns about this change, please communicate them to me or Pranali Deore (Glance PTL) before 23:59 UTC on Wednesday, 29 January 2025. cheers, brian [0] https://launchpad.net/~glance-coresec

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[manila] driver_handles_share_servers not recognized as boolean
by Francesco Di Nucci 31 Jan '25

31 Jan '25

Hi all, I'm running OpenStack 2024.1 Caracal, configured through Puppet, and I'm having an issue with Manila. /etc/manila/manila.conf contains the line "driver_handles_share_servers = True", but setup fails, "/var/log/manila/share.log" reports that "Config opt 'driver_handles_share_servers' has improper value - 'None'. Please define it as boolean." Has anyone encountered this? Where else should I define this? Thanks in advance -- Francesco Di Nucci System Administrator Compute & Networking Service, INFN Naples Email: francesco.dinucci(a)na.infn.it

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[all] Is oslo.vmware still relevant?
by Herve Beraud 31 Jan '25

31 Jan '25

Hey folks, I observed that oslo.vmware has not received any significant modifications since almost 4 years ago [1]. The only changes proposed to oslo.vmware since a while are just related to infra changes (python versions, tox versions, etc...). Due to the recent news about vmware [2], I wonder if oslo.vmware is still a relevant library in our context and I wonder if it is worth spending time on maintaining it. Do you think we should deprecate and retire this library? Thanks in advance for your opinions. [1] https://opendev.org/openstack/oslo.vmware/commits/branch/master [2] the broadcom story -- Hervé Beraud Senior Software Engineer at Red Hat irc: hberaud https://github.com/4383/

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[neutron] Drivers meeting agenda for Friday, January 31st
by Brian Haley 30 Jan '25

30 Jan '25

Hello Neutrinos: Sorry for the late notice but this is the agenda for tomorrow's drivers meeting: * [RFE] Allow rebalancing of OVN LRPs * https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2096704 * We quickly discussed this in our weekly meeting and it seemed like a good idea See you then, -Brian

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[manila] Feb 5th and 6th mid cycle
by Carlos Silva 30 Jan '25

30 Jan '25

Hello, zorillas and interested stackers, Manila's 2025.1 Epoxy mid cycle is right around the corner. We will meet next on February 5th and 6th, from 14 to 16 UTC on meetpad [1]. Please add your topics to the mid cycle etherpad [2]. We will use the second day of the mid cycle for collaborative review sessions, so in case you are proposing a feature or would like to have reviewers attention in a specific change, please bring it up and walk us through your change. [1] https://meetpad.opendev.org/manila-epoxy-mid-cycle [2] https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-epoxy-mid-cycle Looking forward to it, carloss

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OS-EXT-SRV-ATTR incomplete in compute api
by Jan 30 Jan '25

30 Jan '25

Hi, is there a reason why some member variables of the nova instance object are returned by the api and some not. For example the "os_type" value is not returned but the "kernel_id" (OS-EXT-SRV-ATTR:kernel_id) is. I have a use case where it would be very helpful to get the "os_type" via the api and python sdk. Is there a chance that a patch implementing this would be accepted? Regards, Jan

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Skip upgrades
by engineer2024 29 Jan '25

29 Jan '25

Is there a way to upgrade openstack older versions like ussuri , victoria, by migrating just the nova, neutron dbs, schema to the latest version by skipping one level at once and then install the latest venvs against the latest migrated galera dbs. On the compute nodes, if we preserve just the var lib nova instances and on top of it reinstall the compute and neutron agents, will it work ? I am asking becos, I don't know what r the dependencies among the major nova versions. Are the db schema and data, the only diffs from one version to another, or is there any thing else ?

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[keystone] Weekly meeting canceled 29-Jan-25
by Dave Wilde 29 Jan '25

29 Jan '25

Hi folks, Apologies for the late notice but I need to cancel the Keystone weekly meeting today due to a scheduling conflict. Please reach out either here or via IRC if you need anything. Thanks!! /Dave

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[rabbitmq] Need help about RabbitMQ quorum HA mode
by İzzettin Erdem 29 Jan '25

29 Jan '25

Hi, In kolla-ansible yoga environment, rabbitmq queues are set to quorum by default instead of classical mirroring, as it seems they are not replicated (per queue has +0 quorum). We tried to find a solution to handle it in configs, but we couldn't find it and we set queues to be replicated by using CLI commands (rabbitmq-queues grow). Now, my questions are: 1- Why do all rabbitmq queues come as non-replicated by default? 2- How can we set HA mode to quorum queues?

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Nova
by engineer2024 28 Jan '25

28 Jan '25

Does nova support flavors where vcpus of a single flavor can be in mixed modes where some of them are pinned and the rest dedicated ? Say, a flavor has 5 vcpus, I want 2 of them to be of dedicated type and the remaining 3 vcpus to be shared

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[neutron][upgrades] IPv6 Prefix Delegation 'dibbler' driver removal
by Brian Haley 28 Jan '25

28 Jan '25

Hi again Stackers, In 2023, during the Bobcat cycle, the Neutron team changed the IPv6 Prefix Delegation (IPv6 PD) 'dibbler' driver to be an experimental feature [0]. The reason was due to it (dibbler) becoming unmaintained/retired upstream, as well as the low level of testing support we had in Neutron for the feature. So what does this mean? We (the neutron cores) have come to the conclusion that it is time to take the next step and remove the driver from the tree [1]. The framework to support IPv6 PD is *not* being removed, but as this is the only in-tree driver the functionality will no longer be available to end-users. We plan on doing this in the current Epoxy cycle. We realize that there may be deployments using IPv6 PD, although we have not to my knowledge ever received a bug against it, so we think any usage is very small. If there is desire to add an in-tree driver back to the code base, there is an open OVN-related bug for that at [2], we have just not had the interest from downstream customers to warrant the investment in this area. Thanks for reading, -Brian, Neutron PTL [0] https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/879030 [1] https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/934283 [2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1895972

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[Octavia][magnum] change timeout value
by Satish Patel 28 Jan '25

28 Jan '25

Folks, I am running magnum-cluster-api (mcapi) with openstack to spin up k8s but now I want to change octavia LB timeout. Is there a way to tell magnum to change the timeout value of LB? loadbalancer.openstack.org/timeout-client-data: "120000" loadbalancer.openstack.org/timeout-member-data: "120000"

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[Nova] Nova-compute service flapping on Antelope
by Jakub Darmach 28 Jan '25

28 Jan '25

Hello, Recently I encountered an interesting issue - nova-compute service started to temporarily lose Rabbit connectivity to regain it after a few seconds on Antelope. The issue was replicated on the test environment, without specific steps to replicate though - it just starts to happen after some time. I pasted a log example in the bug I opened [1]. First we can see rabbit logging closing AMQP connection, followed by nova-compute reporting rabbit server being unreachable, with next message being successful reconnection. Restarting nova-compute services helps temporarily, the issue starts to manifest after a few days. Initially disconnects once every few hours, each time in shorter intervals, to the point it happens every minute or so. Did anyone encounter something similar? [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2092297 Pozdrawiam / Best regards, *Jakub Darmach*

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[administrivia] Bounce processing disabled for now
by Jeremy Stanley 28 Jan '25

28 Jan '25

Due to repeated challenges with random messages being rejected by subscribers' mail providers (from DMARC invalidations, lines too long to be forwarded, content misidentified as spam, et cetera), the time required for list administrators to manage the resulting extra work is greater than the benefit we get from Mailman being able to figure out when subscriber addresses become defunct. As such, I've disabled the "bounce processing" feature for the time being, until we can work out solutions to make it less of a burden on our list admins and less confusing/failure prone for the list subscribers. If we do decide to give it another try at some point in the future, after some of the current challenges with it get ironed out, I'll let the list know. -- Jeremy Stanley

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openstack-discuss-owner mailbox
by Albert Braden 28 Jan '25

28 Jan '25

Is anyone manning the openstack-discuss-owner mailbox? I've been writing to that address about the recent glitch that deleted my list subscription and account (and according to the error message, hundreds of others), but I'm not getting a response.

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[publiccloud-sig] Public Cloud SIG Meeting this week
by Felix Kronlage-Dammers 28 Jan '25

28 Jan '25

Hi everyone, This upcoming Wednesday (January 29th) the next meeting of the publiccloud-sig is going to happen or at least would happen: However I’ll not be around tomorrow to facilitate and I did not get any feedback from anyone else on it. Usually we would be meeting at 0800 UTC here: https://meetpad.opendev.org/publiccloud-sig - so give it a shot ;) See also here for all other details: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PublicCloudSIG felix -- Felix Kronlage-Dammers Tel.: +49-30-206539-205 | Matrix: @fkronlage:matrix.org | fkr(a)osb-alliance.com

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[nova] Performance Issues with OpenStack Server List on os-compute-api-version 2.96
by 黒羽正徳 [Kuroha Masanori] 28 Jan '25

28 Jan '25

Hello, We have recently encountered a situation where the response time for the openstack server list command is significantly slower when specifying os-compute-api-version 2.96 for certain projects. In comparison with version 2.95, some projects experience a response time that is 2-3 times longer, while other projects show little to no difference. We understand that in version 2.96, there was a change to obtain the availability zone from the request_spec [1]. However, upon checking the instance records in request_spec for the projects, we have not identified any differences that would account for this slow response behavior. Additionally, we have observed that when certain ERROR VM is present, the response time for the server list can become considerably slower for specific projects. In one case, we resolved the slow response issue by deleting instances that did not have corresponding fault records in the database. However, the exact reason why this action resolved the issue remains unclear. If anyone has more detailed information or potential solutions regarding these issues, or if you have encountered similar situations, we would greatly appreciate your insights. [1] https://git.linecorp.com/Flava-IaaS/nova/commit/c98c8d84eec6e65f1b67ae1ab82… Best regards, Masanori Kuroha

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[largescale-sig] Next meeting: January 15, 9utc
by Thierry Carrez 27 Jan '25

27 Jan '25

Hi everyone, The Large Scale SIG will be meeting this Wednesday in #openstack-operators on OFTC IRC, at 9UTC. You can doublecheck how that UTC time translates locally at: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20250115T09 Feel free to add topics to the agenda: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/large-scale-sig-meeting Regards, -- Thierry Carrez

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[tc][all] OpenStack Technical Committee Weekly Summary and Meeting Agenda (2025.1/R-9)
by Goutham Pacha Ravi 27 Jan '25

27 Jan '25

Hello Stackers, We're 9 weeks away from OpenStack's 2025.1 coordinated "Epoxy" release [1]. These weeks leading up to feature freeze (R-5/Feb 24-28) will be about "getting things done" for project teams. As Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) wrote to you [2], we'll be kicking off combined elections for Project Team Leads for the 2025.2 "Flamingo" release cycle and five seats on the OpenStack Technical Committee next week. In light of this, please confirm your eligibility to vote in these elections by navigating to the CIVS website and entering your Gerrit email address: https://civs1.civs.us/cgi-bin/opt_in.pl In each of the past three elections, we've had roughly a fifth of eligible voters cast their votes. It would make a great difference to our community if we could improve this statistic with your cooperation! In the past week, the OpenStack Technical Committee approved a resolution to welcome the "Freezer" (Disaster-Recovery-as-a-Service) project back into the fold of "active" projects [3]. I'd like to extend a shout-out to Dmitriy Rabotyagov (noonedeadpunk) and Álvaro Soto (khyr0n) for their work to revive the project team. The team is looking to pursue the release of several project deliverables during this release. === Weekly Meeting === The TC weekly IRC meeting on 2025-01-21 [4] was well attended. We were in "getting things done" mode too, as much of the meeting followed up on action items from past meetings. We discussed getting more active review participation for changes to the "openstackdocstheme" repository by working with the Oslo team. We also deliberated on election nomination windows. We are in favor of early nominations from folks who are unable to self-nominate due to holidays or other personal reasons to be away from their computers during the nomination window. However, there were concerns expressed that the election officials may be burdened by the work necessary to shepherd such nominations. Early nominations would fail several CI checks, require re-checks, and potentially create some confusion. We'll attempt to watch this closely for the next election cycle and recalibrate. Our goal is to avoid leaderless projects due to holiday cycles during elections. The TC also discussed the next steps for the newly active Freezer project to release artifacts during the current release cycle. The next meeting of the OpenStack TC is today, 2025-01-28, at 1800 UTC in the #openstack-tc IRC channel on OFTC. Please find the meeting's agenda on the meeting wiki [5]. I hope you'll be able to join us. === Governance Proposals === ==== Merged ==== - Retire Freezer DR | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/938183 - Remove Freezer from inactive state | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/938938 ==== Open for Review ==== - Retire qdrouterd role | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/938193 - Reset the DPL model for Oslo project | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/939485 - Reset the DPL model for Release project | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/939486 - Add devstack-plugin-prometheus repo to Quality Assurance repos | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/939953 - Reset the DPL model for Watcher project | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/939488 - Add Watcher project update liaison | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/940168 - Adopt DPL model for Watcher 2025.2 | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/940167 - Define 2025 upstream investment opportunities | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/939507 - Add resolution for late Freezer release | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/939792 - Deprecate ironic-lib | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/939278 - Resolve to adhere to non-biased language | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/934907 === Upcoming Events === - 2025-01-28: OpenInfra Board Monthly Meeting: https://board.openinfra.org/ - 2025-02-01: FOSDEM 2025 (https://fosdem.org/2025/) OpenStack's 15th Birthday Celebration - 2025-02-05: Nominations open for 2025.2 TC/PTL Elections: https://governance.openstack.org/election/ - 2025-02-28: 2025.1 ("Epoxy") Feature Freeze and release milestone 3 [1] - 2025-03-06: SCALE 2025 + OpenInfra Days NA (https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/22x) Thank you very much for reading! On behalf of the OpenStack TC, Goutham Pacha Ravi (gouthamr) OpenStack TC Chair [1] 2025.1 "Epoxy" Release Schedule: https://releases.openstack.org/epoxy/schedule.html [2] 2025.2 Election Kickoff: https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack… [3] Remove Freezer from inactive state: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/938938 [4] TC Meeting IRC Log 2025-01-21: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2025/tc.2025-01-21-18.00.log.html [5] TC Meeting Agenda, 2025-01-28: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee#Next_Meeting

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[mistral] meetings during next PTG
by Arnaud Morin 27 Jan '25

27 Jan '25

Hey all, Next PTG will take place between April 7 to 10. Is there anyone willing to talk about mistral developement during this PTG? So far, mistral has not evolved that much, but maybe someone is having ideas about it? Also, there is this eventlet-removal topic that could be discussed. Let me know, Cheers, Arnaud.

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[neutron] Bug Deputy Report Jan 20 - Jan 26
by Yatin Karel 27 Jan '25

27 Jan '25

Hi Neutrinos, Below is the bug deputy report for last week:- High ------ - https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2095807 - OVN loadbalancer via FIP does not work for DVR + VLAN networks Unassigned OVN octavia provider, Asked Fernando to have a look as could be known one - https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2095598 - test_async_process_respawns functional test failing in fips functional job Unassigned We thought it would get fixed with https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/939627 but it's not, so have to be checked again - https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2095595 - The neutron-dhcp-agent resync throttling mechanism doesn't work Assigned to Anton Kurbatov - https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2095590 - [OVN] Neutron API stops refreshing the hash ring node Assigned to Rodolfo - https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2095566 - [OVN] Router creation timeouts randomly Unassigned Rodolfo mentioned he has some fixes in flight to cover ovn wsgi related issue, so to confirm if this is also covered. Medium ---------- - https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2095576 - [OVS] False ERROR log message every time when creating VM Unassigned - https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2095322 - ADMIN_OR_NET_OWNER_{MEMBER|READER} rules don't work for subnets Unassigned Incomplete --------------- - https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2096704 - [RFE] Allow rebalancing of OVN LRPs Asked for more context -- Thanks and Regards Yatin Karel

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[all][elections][ptl][tc] Combined PTL/TC 2025.2 cycle Election Season
by Sławek Kapłoński 27 Jan '25

27 Jan '25

Hi, Election details: https://governance.openstack.org/election/ The nomination period officially begins Feb 05, 2025 23:45 UTC. Please read the stipulations and timelines for candidates and electorate contained in these governance documents[1][2][3]. Due to circumstances of timing, PTL and TC elections for the coming cycle will run concurrently; deadlines for their nomination and voting activities are synchronized but will still use separate ballots. Please note, if only one candidate is nominated as PTL for a project team during the PTL nomination period, that candidate will win by acclaim, and there will be no poll. There will only be a poll if there is more than one candidate stepping forward for a project team's PTL position. Similarly, there will only be a TC poll if there are more than 5 candidates stepping forward the available TC positions. All members of the community are encouraged to confirm their email address as described at: https://governance.openstack.org/election/#electorate There will be further announcements posted to the mailing list as action is required from the electorate or candidates. This email is for information purposes only. If you have any questions which you feel affect others please reply to this email thread. If you have any questions that you wish to discuss in private please email any of the election officials[4] so that we may address your concerns. Thank you, [1] https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/charter.html [2] https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/role-of-the-tc.html [3] https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/ptl.html [4] https://governance.openstack.org/election/#election-officials -- Slawek Kaplonski Principal Software Engineer Red Hat

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[openstack-helm] Use Loci images by default
by Vladimir Kozhukalov 26 Jan '25

26 Jan '25

Hi, This is to announce multiple things: 1) OpenStack/Loci (a project for building OpenStack images) is currently equipped with periodic jobs that are run nightly. These jobs build images for 3 most recent OpenStack releases: - 2023.2 Bobcat - 2024.1 Caracal - 2024.2 Dalmatian Images are published to these two destinations: - docker.io/loci/* (which is known for its strict request rate limits) - quay.io/airshipit/* (which is much more tolerant to the number of requests) Images are tested before publishing with two basic deployment configurations: - compute-kit (Deploy minimal set of OpenStack components to run VMs) - cinder (Deploy Cinder with Ceph backend) 2) By default we are going to use Loci images published to the Quay registry [1]. All test jobs will be run with these images and this is also a recommendation for users to consume images from quay to mitigate possible rate limit issues. 3) OpenStack/OpenStack-Helm-Images project will build only non-OpenStack images. Primarily the motivation is to deduplicate the code base. Consequently, OpenStack images published nightly to docker.io/openstackhelm/* will not be updated after 2024.2. [1] https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-helm/+/939426 -- Best regards, Kozhukalov Vladimir

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