December 2020 - openstack-discuss

[all] Dynamic Zuul results table in Gerrit 3
by Radosław Piliszek 05 Aug '22

05 Aug '22

Hello Fellow OpenStack and OpenDev Folks! TL;DR click on [3] and enjoy. I am starting this thread to not hijack the discussion happening on [1]. First of all, I would like to thank gibi (Balazs Gibizer) for hacking a way to get the place to render the table in the first place (pun intended). I have been a long-time-now user of [2]. I have improved and customised it for myself but never really got to share back the changes I made. The new Gerrit obviously broke the whole script so it was of no use to share at that particular state. However, inspired by gibi's work, I decided to finally sit down and fix it to work with Gerrit 3 and here it comes: [3]. Works well on Chrome with Tampermonkey. Not tested others. I hope you will enjoy this little helper (I do). I know the script looks super fugly but it generally boils down to a mix of styles of 3 people and Gerrit having funky UI rendering. Finally, I'd also like to thank hrw (Marcin Juszkiewicz) for linking me to the original Michel's script in 2019. [1] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-November/019051… [2] https://opendev.org/x/coats/src/commit/444c95738677593dcfed0cfd9667d4c4f0d5… [3] https://gist.github.com/yoctozepto/7ea1271c299d143388b7c1b1802ee75e Kind regards, -yoctozepto

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[nova][dev] Revisiting qemu emulation where guest arch != host arch
by Apsey, Christopher 06 Jan '22

06 Jan '22

All, A few years ago I asked a question[1] about why nova, when given a hw_architecture property from glance for an image, would not end up using the correct qemu-system-xx binary when starting the guest process on a compute node if that compute nodes architecture did not match the proposed guest architecture. As an example, if we had all x86 hosts, but wanted to run an emulated ppc guest, we should be able to do that given that at least one compute node had qemu-system-ppc already installed and libvirt was successfully reporting that as a supported architecture to nova. It seemed like a heavy lift at the time, so it was put on the back burner. I am now in a position to fund a contract developer to make this happen, so the question is: would this be a useful blueprint that would potentially be accepted? Most of the time when people want to run an emulated guest they would just nest it inside of an already running guest of the native architecture, but that severely limits observability and the task of managing any more than a handful of instances in this manner quickly becomes a tangled nightmare of networking, etc. I see real benefit in allowing this scenario to run natively so all of the tooling that exists for fleet management 'just works'. This would also be a significant differentiator for OpenStack as a whole. Thoughts? [1] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2018-August/015653… Chris Apsey Director | Georgia Cyber Range GEORGIA CYBER CENTER 100 Grace Hopper Lane | Augusta, Georgia | 30901 https://www.gacybercenter.org

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Help with eventlet 0.26.1 and dnspython >= 2
by Thomas Goirand 05 Oct '21

05 Oct '21

Hi, As you may know, eventlet is incompatible with dnspython >= 2.0.0.0rc1. See [1] for the details. However, Debian unstable has 2.0.0. Would there be some good soul willing to help me fix this situation? I would need a patch to fix this, but I'm really not sure how to start. Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo)

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[simplification] Making ask.openstack.org read-only
by Thierry Carrez 28 May '21

28 May '21

Hi everyone, This has been discussed several times on this mailing list in the past, but we never got to actually pull the plug. Ask.openstack.org was launched in 2013. The reason for hosting our own setup was to be able to support multiple languages, while StackOverflow rejected our proposal to have our own openstack-branded StackExchange site. The Chinese ask.o.o side never really took off. The English side also never really worked perfectly (like email alerts are hopelessly broken), but we figured it would get better with time if a big community formed around it. Fast-forward to 2020 and the instance is lacking volunteers to help run it, while the code (and our customization of it) has become more complicated to maintain. It regularly fails one way or another, and questions there often go unanswered, making us look bad. Of the top 30 users, most have abandoned the platform since 2017, leaving only Bernd Bausch actively engaging and helping moderate questions lately. We have called for volunteers several times, but the offers for help never really materialized. At the same time, people are asking OpenStack questions on StackOverflow, and sometimes getting answers there[1]. The fragmentation of the "questions" space is not helping users getting good answers. I think it's time to pull the plug, make ask.openstack.org read-only (so that links to old answers are not lost) and redirect users to the mailing-list and the "OpenStack" tag on StackOverflow. I picked StackOverflow since it seems to have the most openstack questions (2,574 on SO, 76 on SuperUser and 430 on ServerFault). We discussed that option several times, but I now proposed a change to actually make it happen: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/746497/ It's always a difficult decision to make to kill a resource, but I feel like in this case, consolidation and simplification would help. Thoughts, comments? [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/openstack -- Thierry

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[stein][neutron] gratuitous arp
by Ignazio Cassano 14 May '21

14 May '21

Hello, I have a problem on stein neutron. When a vm migrate from one node to another I cannot ping it for several minutes. If in the vm I put a script that ping the gateway continously, the live migration works fine and I can ping it. Why this happens ? I read something about gratuitous arp. Please, help me ? Any workaround , please ? Best Regards Ignazio

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[ironic] Announcing deprecation of the iSCSI deploy interface
by Dmitry Tantsur 04 May '21

04 May '21

Hi all, Following up to the previous mailing list [1] and virtual meetup [2] discussions, I would like to announce the plans to deprecate the 'iscsi' deploy interface. This is the updated plan discussed on the virtual meetup: 1) In the Victoria cycle (i.e. right now): - Fill in the detected feature gaps [3]. - Switch off the iscsi deploy interface by default. - Change [agent]image_dowload_source to HTTP by default. - Give the direct deploy a higher priority, so that it's used by default unless disabled. - Mark it as deprecated in the code (causing warnings when enabled). - Release a major version of ironic to highlight the defaults changes. 2) In the W cycle: - Keep the iscsi deploy deprecated. - Listen to operators' feedback. 3) In the X cycle - Remove the iscsi deploy completely from ironic and IPA. - Remove support code from ironic-lib with a major version bump. Please let us know if you have any questions or concerns. Dmitry [1] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-August/016681.h… [2] https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/Ironic-Victoria-midcycle [3] https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2008075 -- Red Hat GmbH, https://de.redhat.com/ , Registered seat: Grasbrunn, Commercial register: Amtsgericht Muenchen, HRB 153243, Managing Directors: Charles Cachera, Brian Klemm, Laurie Krebs, Michael O'Neill

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[barbican][oslo][nova][glance][cinder] cursive library status
by Brian Rosmaita 04 May '21

04 May '21

Hello Barbican team, Apologies for not including barbican in the previous thread on this topic: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-December/019430… The situation is that cursive is used by Nova, Glance, and Cinder and we'd like to move it out of the 'x' namespace into openstack governance. The question is then what team would oversee it. It seems like a good fit for Oslo, and the Oslo team seems OK with that, but since barbican-core is currently included in cursive-core, it make sense to give the Barbican team first dibs. From the consuming teams' side, I don't think we have a preference as long as it's clear who we need to bother about approvals if a bugfix is posted for review. Thus my ask is that the Barbican team indicate whether they'd like to move cursive to the 'openstack' namespace under their governance, or whether they'd prefer Oslo to oversee the library. Thank you! brian

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[ironic] [infra] Making Glean work with IPA for static IP assignment
by Dmitry Tantsur 18 Mar '21

18 Mar '21

Hi Ian, Given our timezone difference, I've decided to send you an email, adding openstack-discuss in CC for greater exposure. We're trying to make IPA (our agent ramdisk) to work without relying on DHCP for cases like Edge deployments. We've settled on the network_data.json format for the API side and wanted to use Glean on the ramdisk to apply it. You can read more details in [1]. The problem is, I cannot make Glean work with any ramdisk I build. The crux of the problem seems to be that NetworkManager (used by default in RHEL, CentOS, Fedora and Debian at least) starts very early, creates the default connection and ignores whatever files Glean happens to write afterwards. On Debian running `systemctl restart networking` actually helped to pick the new configuration, but I'm not sure we want to do that in Glean. I haven't been able to make NetworkManager pick up the changes on RH systems so far. I build ramdisks using IPA-builder [2] by adding the simple-init element. I've tried removing dhcp-all-interfaces (which we depend on by default) to no effect. I've tried disabling the DHCP server, ended up with no IP connectivity at all. I haven't tried to shutdown and restart a connection as recommended in [3] since it's not trivial to do via SSH. Do you maybe have any hints how to proceed? I'd be curious to know how static IP assignment works in the infra setup. Do you have images with NetworkManager there? Do you use the simple-init element? Any help is very appreciated. Dmitry [1] https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/ironic-specs/specs/not-implemented/L3… [2] https://opendev.org/openstack/ironic-python-agent-builder [3] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/networkmanager-list/2014-January/msg00032.h… -- Red Hat GmbH, https://de.redhat.com/ , Registered seat: Grasbrunn, Commercial register: Amtsgericht Muenchen, HRB 153243, Managing Directors: Charles Cachera, Brian Klemm, Laurie Krebs, Michael O'Neill

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Re: [openstack-dev] Are we ready to put stable/ocata into extended maintenance mode?
by Alex Schultz 03 Mar '21

03 Mar '21

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 1:30 PM Alex Schultz <aschultz(a)redhat.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Matt Riedemann <mriedemos(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > The release page says Ocata is planned to go into extended maintenance mode > > on Aug 27 [1]. There really isn't much to this except it means we don't do > > releases for Ocata anymore [2]. There is a caveat that project teams that do > > not wish to maintain stable/ocata after this point can immediately end of > > life the branch for their project [3]. We can still run CI using tags, e.g. > > if keystone goes ocata-eol, devstack on stable/ocata can still continue to > > install from stable/ocata for nova and the ocata-eol tag for keystone. > > Having said that, if there is no undue burden on the project team keeping > > the lights on for stable/ocata, I would recommend not tagging the > > stable/ocata branch end of life at this point. > > > > So, questions that need answering are: > > > > 1. Should we cut a final release for projects with stable/ocata branches > > before going into extended maintenance mode? I tend to think "yes" to flush > > the queue of backports. In fact, [3] doesn't mention it, but the resolution > > said we'd tag the branch [4] to indicate it has entered the EM phase. > > > > 2. Are there any projects that would want to skip EM and go directly to EOL > > (yes this feels like a Monopoly question)? > > > > I believe TripleO would like to EOL instead of EM for Ocata as > indicated by the thead > http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134671.ht… > Bringing this backup to see what we need to do to get the stable/ocata branches ended for the TripleO projects. I'm bringing this up because we have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/647009/ which is for the upcoming rename but CI is broken and we have no interest in continue to keep the stable/ocata branches alive (or fix ci for them). Thanks, -Alex > Thanks, > -Alex > > > [1] https://releases.openstack.org/ > > [2] > > https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#maintena… > > [3] > > https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#extended… > > [4] > > https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20180301-stable-branch-eol.… > > > > -- > > > > Thanks, > > > > Matt > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > > Unsubscribe: OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

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[tc][heat][tacker] Discusssion about heat-translater and tosca-parser maintenance
by TAKAHASHI TOSHIAKI(高橋　敏明) 15 Feb '21

15 Feb '21

Hi, I'm a tacker team member. I'd like to discuss how to maintain heat-translator[1] and tosca-parser[2] repositories. These 2 repositories have not been updated so actively, but tacker often requires code updates for these repositories. Recently, patch merge progress of tacker and these repo do not sometimes match, which affects the development of tacker. For example, our some functional tests on zuul fail because these master codes are not updated. Therefore, tacker members would like to take part more in these 2 developments. Tacker members have already started code reviews, patch posts, etc. If possible, we want some Tacker members to join the core team in the near future. How about this? [1] https://opendev.org/openstack/heat-translator [2] https://opendev.org/openstack/tosca-parser Regards, Toshiaki

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