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[queens][nova] iscsi issue
by Ignazio Cassano 20 Jan '20

20 Jan '20

Hello all we are testing openstack queens cinder driver for Unity iscsi (driver cinder.volume.drivers.dell_emc.unity.Driver). The unity storage is a Unity600 Version 4.5.10.5.001 We are facing an issue when we try to detach volume from a virtual machine with two or more volumes attached (this happens often but not always): The following is reported nova-compute.log: 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server self.connector.disconnect_volume(connection_info['data'], None) 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/os_brick/utils.py", line 137, in trace_logging_wrapper 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server return f(*args, **kwargs) 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/oslo_concurrency/lockutils.py", line 274, in inner 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server return f(*args, **kwargs) 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/os_brick/initiator/connectors/iscsi.py", line 848, in disconnect_volume 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server device_info=device_info) 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/os_brick/initiator/connectors/iscsi.py", line 892, in _cleanup_connection 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server path_used, was_multipath) 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/os_brick/initiator/linuxscsi.py", line 271, in remove_connection 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server self.flush_multipath_device(multipath_name) 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/os_brick/initiator/linuxscsi.py", line 329, in flush_multipath_device 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server root_helper=self._root_helper) 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/os_brick/executor.py", line 52, in _execute 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server result = self.__execute(*args, **kwargs) 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/os_brick/privileged/rootwrap.py", line 169, in execute 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server return execute_root(*cmd, **kwargs) 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/oslo_privsep/priv_context.py", line 207, in _wrap 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server return self.channel.remote_call(name, args, kwargs) 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/oslo_privsep/daemon.py", line 202, in remote_call 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server raise exc_type(*result[2]) 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server ProcessExecutionError: Unexpected error while running command. 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server Command: multipath -f 36006016006e04400d0c4215e3ec55757 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server Exit code: 1 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server Stdout: u'Jan 17 16:04:30 | 36006016006e04400d0c4215e3ec55757p1: map in use\nJan 17 16:04:31 | failed to remove multipath map 36006016006e04400d0c4215e3ec55757\n' 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server Stderr: u'' 2020-01-17 16:05:11.132 6643 ERROR oslo_messaging.rpc.server Best Regards Ignazio

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[magnum][kolla] etcd wal sync duration issue
by Eric K. Miller 20 Jan '20

20 Jan '20

Hi, We are using the following coe cluster template and cluster create commands on an OpenStack Stein installation that installs Magnum 8.2.0 Kolla containers installed by Kolla-Ansible 8.0.1: openstack coe cluster template create \ --image Fedora-AtomicHost-29-20191126.0.x86_64_raw \ --keypair userkey \ --external-network ext-net \ --dns-nameserver 1.1.1.1 \ --master-flavor c5sd.4xlarge \ --flavor m5sd.4xlarge \ --coe kubernetes \ --network-driver flannel \ --volume-driver cinder \ --docker-storage-driver overlay2 \ --docker-volume-size 100 \ --registry-enabled \ --master-lb-enabled \ --floating-ip-disabled \ --fixed-network KubernetesProjectNetwork001 \ --fixed-subnet KubernetesProjectSubnet001 \ --labels kube_tag=v1.15.7,cloud_provider_tag=v1.15.0,heat_container_agent_tag=ste in-dev,master_lb_floating_ip_enabled=true \ k8s-cluster-template-1.15.7-production-private openstack coe cluster create \ --cluster-template k8s-cluster-template-1.15.7-production-private \ --keypair userkey \ --master-count 3 \ --node-count 3 \ k8s-cluster001 The deploy process works perfectly, however, the cluster health status flips between healthy and unhealthy. The unhealthy status indicates that etcd has an issue. When logged into master-0 (out of 3, as configured above), "systemctl status etcd" shows the stdout from etcd, which shows: Jan 11 17:27:36 k8s-cluster001-4effrc2irvjq-master-0.novalocal runc[2725]: 2020-01-11 17:27:36.548453 W | etcdserver: timed out waiting for read index response Jan 11 17:28:02 k8s-cluster001-4effrc2irvjq-master-0.novalocal runc[2725]: 2020-01-11 17:28:02.960977 W | wal: sync duration of 1.696804699s, expected less than 1s Jan 11 17:28:31 k8s-cluster001-4effrc2irvjq-master-0.novalocal runc[2725]: 2020-01-11 17:28:31.292753 W | wal: sync duration of 2.249722223s, expected less than 1s We also see: Jan 11 17:40:39 k8s-cluster001-4effrc2irvjq-master-0.novalocal runc[2725]: 2020-01-11 17:40:39.132459 I | etcdserver/api/v3rpc: grpc: Server.processUnaryRPC failed to write status: stream error: code = DeadlineExceeded desc = "context deadline exceeded" We initially used relatively small flavors, but increased these to something very large to be sure resources were not constrained in any way. "top" reported no CPU nor memory contention on any nodes in either case. Multiple clusters have been deployed, and they all have this issue, including empty clusters that were just deployed. I see a very large number of reports of similar issues with etcd, but discussions lead to disk performance, which can't be the cause here, not only because persistent storage for etcd isn't configured in Magnum, but also the disks are "very" fast in this environment. Looking at "vmstat -D" from within master-0, the number of writes is minimal. Ceilometer logs about 15 to 20 write IOPS for this VM in Gnocchi. Any ideas? We are finalizing procedures to upgrade to Train, so we wanted to be sure that we weren't running into some common issue with Stein that would immediately be solved with Train. If so, we will simply proceed with the upgrade and avoid diagnosing this issue further. Thanks! Eric

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Galera config values
by Albert Braden 20 Jan '20

20 Jan '20

I'm experimenting with Galera in my Rocky openstack-ansible dev cluster, and I'm finding that the default haproxy config values don't seem to work. Finding the correct values is a lot of work. For example, I spent this morning experimenting with different values for "timeout client" in /etc/haproxy/haproxy.cfg. The default is 1m, and with the default set I see this error in /var/log/nova/nova-scheduler.log on the controllers: 2020-01-17 13:54:26.059 443358 ERROR oslo_db.sqlalchemy.engines DBConnectionError: (pymysql.err.OperationalError) (2013, 'Lost connection to MySQL server during query') [SQL: u'SELECT 1'] (Background on this error at: http://sqlalche.me/e/e3q8) There are several timeout values in /etc/haproxy/haproxy.cfg. These are the values we started with: stats timeout 30s timeout http-request 10s timeout queue 1m timeout connect 10s timeout client 1m timeout server 1m timeout check 10s At first I changed them all to 30m. This stopped the "Lost connection" error in nova-scheduler.log. Then, one at a time, I changed them back to the default. When I got to "timeout client" I found that setting it back to 1m caused the errors to start again. I changed it back and forth and found that 4 minutes causes errors, and 6m stops them, so I left it at 6m. These are my active variables: root@us01odc-dev2-ctrl1:/etc/mysql# mysql -e 'show variables;'|grep timeout connect_timeout 20 deadlock_timeout_long 50000000 deadlock_timeout_short 10000 delayed_insert_timeout 300 idle_readonly_transaction_timeout 0 idle_transaction_timeout 0 idle_write_transaction_timeout 0 innodb_flush_log_at_timeout 1 innodb_lock_wait_timeout 50 innodb_rollback_on_timeout OFF interactive_timeout 28800 lock_wait_timeout 86400 net_read_timeout 30 net_write_timeout 60 rpl_semi_sync_master_timeout 10000 rpl_semi_sync_slave_kill_conn_timeout 5 slave_net_timeout 60 thread_pool_idle_timeout 60 wait_timeout 3600 So it looks like the value of "timeout client" in haproxy.cfg needs to match or exceed the value of "wait_timeout" in mysql. Also in nova.conf I see "#connection_recycle_time = 3600" - I need to experiment to see how that value interacts with the timeouts in the other config files. Is this the best way to find the correct config values? It seems like there should be a document that talks about these timeouts and how to set them (or maybe more generally how the different timeout settings in the various config files interact). Does that document exist? If not, maybe I could write one, since I have to figure out the correct values anyway.

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[openstack-helm] Core Reviewer Nominations
by Pete Birley 20 Jan '20

20 Jan '20

OpenStack-Helm team, Based on their record of quality code review and substantial/meaningful code contributions to the openstack-helm project, at last weeks meeting we proposed the following individuals as core reviewers for openstack-helm: - Gage Hugo - Steven Fitzpatrick All OpenStack-Helm Core Reviewers are invited to reply with a +1/-1 by EOD next Monday (27/1/2020). A lone +1/-1 will apply to both candidates, otherwise please spell out votes individually for the candidates. Cheers, Pete

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[neutron] Bug deputy report for week of January 13th
by Brian Haley 20 Jan '20

20 Jan '20

Hi, I was Neutron bug deputy last week. Below is a short summary about reported bugs. -Brian Critical bugs ------------- * https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1859988 - neutron-tempest-plugin tests fail for stable/queens - bcafarel picked up, related to below bug * https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1860033 - neutron tempest jobs broken on rocky due to requirements neutron-lib upgrade - many proposed changes, discussion on ML High bugs --------- * https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1859977 - [OVN] Update of floatingip creates new row in NBDB NAT table - maciej picked up * https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1860140 - [OVN] Provider driver sends malformed update to Octavia - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/703097 * https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1860141 - [OVN] Provider driver fails while LB VIP port already created - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/703110 Medium bugs ----------- * https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1859832 - L3 HA connectivity to GW port can be broken after reboot of backup node - Issue with MLDv2 packet causing issues with connections - Slawek picked up ownership * https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1860273 - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/703292/ Low bugs -------- * https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1859765 - Sgs of device_owner_network port can be update without specifing "device_owner" attr - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702632/ - discussion in review * https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1859962 - Sanity checks comparing versions should not use decimal comparison - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702847/ Wishlist bugs ------------- Invalid bugs ------------ * https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1859638 - VIP between dvr east-west networks does not work at all - Duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1774459 * https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1859976 - Removing smart_nic port in openstack will try to delete representor port - os-vif issue Further triage required ----------------------- * https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1859362 - Neutron accepts arbitrary MTU values for networks - Rodolfo has some questions on the bug * https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/neutron/+bug/1859649 - networking disruption on upgrade from 14.0.0 to 14.0.3 - Rodolfo had question about restart order of services * https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1859887 - External connectivity broken because of stale FIP rule - Asked for release information, etc * https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-ovn/+bug/1859965 - networking-ovn's octavia api，how get octavia-api DB use python code? - networking-ovn octavia driver bug? asked for more information

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[release] Python universal wheel support
by Sean McGinnis 20 Jan '20

20 Jan '20

Greetings, We have just merged a change to the release-openstack-python job that changes the wheels we produce to not be universal. For some background - we added an explicit flag of "--universal" to the creation of wheels a while back. For projects that have both Python 2 and 3 support, you want an universal wheel. Not all (probably most) projects did not add this flag to their setup.cfg, so overriding at the release job level was considered a good way to make sure our output was what we wanted at the time. We now have the majority of projects dropping py2 support, so we actually no longer want to create these universal wheels if py2 support has been dropped. That has actually been seen to cause some issues. The downside with this change is that the job is for *all* deliverables we release, including stable releases. So with this change, any new stable branches will no longer get universal wheels if the flag has not been set locally. This was deemed a good tradeoff with the current needs though. The lack of a univeral wheel may just make installation of py2 stable deliverables just slightly slower, but should not cause any real issues. Actions ------ Most likely this won't require any actions on the project team's part. If you have a project that still supports both py2 and py3 and do not have the flag set in setup.cfg, that can be added to still get the universal wheels built. That is done by adding the following: ``` [bdist_wheel] universal = 1 ``` Again, the performance impact is probably very minimal during installation, so this shouldn't be a major concern. If there are any oddities noticed after this change, please bring them up and we can help investigate what is happening. Thanks! Sean

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[Multi-Arch-sig] Meeting this week
by Rico Lin 20 Jan '20

20 Jan '20

Hi all. As reminder, we will host our meeting this week. Tuesday at 0800 UTC in #openstack-meeting-alt and 1500 UTC in #openstack-meeting . Feel free to propose agenda here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Multi-Arch-agenda See you all in meeting:) -- May The Force of OpenStack Be With You, *Rico Lin*irc: ricolin

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Cinder snapshot delete successful when expected to fail
by Tony Pearce 20 Jan '20

20 Jan '20

Could anyone help by pointing me where to go to be able to dig into this issue further? I have installed a test Openstack environment using RDO Packstack. I wanted to install the same version that I have in Production (Pike) but it's not listed in the CentOS repo via yum search. So I installed Queens. I am using nimble.py Cinder driver. Nimble Storage is a storage array accessed via iscsi from the Openstack host, and is controlled from Openstack by the driver and API. *What I expected to happen:* 1. create an instance with volume (the volume is created on the storage array successfully and instance boots from it) 2. take a snapshot (snapshot taken on the volume on the array successfully) 3. create a new instance from the snapshot (the api tells the array to clone the snapshot into a new volume on the array and use that volume for the instance) 4. try and delete the snapshot Expected Result - Openstack gives the user a message like "you're not allowed to do that". Note: Step 3 above creates a child volume from the parent snapshot. It's impossible to delete the parent snapshot because IO READ is sent to that part of the original volume (as I understand it). *My production problem is this: * 1. create an instance with volume (the volume is created on the storage array successfully) 2. take a snapshot (snapshot taken on the volume on the array successfully) 3. create a new instance from the snapshot (the api tells the array to clone the snapshot into a new volume on the array and use that volume for the instance) 4. try and delete the snapshot Result - snapshot goes into error state and later, all Cinder operations fail such as new instance/create volume etc. until the correct service is restarted. Then everything works once again. To troubleshoot the above, I installed the RDP Packstack Queens (because I couldnt get Pike). I tested the above and now, the result is the snapshot is successfully deleted from openstack but not deleted on the array. The log is below for reference. But I can see the in the log that the array sends back info to openstack saying the snapshot has a clone and the delete cannot be done because of that. Also response code 409. *Some info about why the problem with Pike started in the first place* 1. Vendor is Nimble Storage which HPE purchased 2. HPE/Nimble have dropped support for openstack. Latest supported version is Queens and Nimble array version v4.x. The current Array version is v5.x. Nimble say there are no guarantees with openstack, the driver and the array version v5.x 3. I was previously advised by Nimble that the array version v5.x will work fine and so left our DR array on v5.x with a pending upgrade that had a blocker due to an issue. This issue was resolved in December and the pending upgrade completed to match the DR array took place around 30 days ago. With regards to the production issue, I assumed that the array API has some changes between v4.x and v5.x and it's causing an issue with Cinder due to the API response. Although I have not been able to find out if or what changes there are that may have occurred after the array upgrade, as the documentation for this is Nimble internal-only. *So with that - some questions if I may:* When Openstack got the 409 error response from the API (as seen in the log below), why would Openstack then proceed to delete the snapshot on the Openstack side? How could I debug this further? I'm not sure what Openstack Cinder is acting on in terns of the response as yet. Maybe Openstack is not specifically looking for the error code in the response? The snapshot that got deleted on the openstack side is a problem. Would this be related to the driver? Could it be possible that the driver did not pass the error response to Cinder? Thanks in advance. Just for reference, the log snippet is below. ==> volume.log <== > 2020-01-17 16:53:23.718 24723 WARNING py.warnings > [req-60fe4335-af66-4c46-9bbd-2408bf4d6f07 df7548ecad684f26b8bc802ba63a9814 > 87e34c89e6fb41d2af25085b64011a55 - default default] > /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/requests/packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py:852: > InsecureRequestWarning: Unverified HTTPS request is being made. Adding > certificate verification is strongly advised. See: > https://urllib3.readthedocs.io/en/latest/advanced-usage.html#ssl-warnings > InsecureRequestWarning) > : NimbleAPIException: Failed to execute api > snapshots/0464a5fd65d75fcfe1000000000000011100001a41: Error Code: 409 > Message: Snapshot snapshot-3806efc5-65ca-495a-a87a-baaddc9607d9 for volume > volume-5b02db35-8d5c-4ef6-b0e7-2f9b62cac57e has a clone. > ==> api.log <== > 2020-01-17 16:53:23.769 25242 INFO cinder.api.openstack.wsgi > [req-bfcbff34-134b-497e-82b1-082d48f8767f df7548ecad684f26b8bc802ba63a9814 > 87e34c89e6fb41d2af25085b64011a55 - default default] > http://192.168.53.45:8776/v3/87e34c89e6fb41d2af25085b64011a55/volumes/detail > returned with HTTP 200 > 2020-01-17 16:53:23.770 25242 INFO eventlet.wsgi.server > [req-bfcbff34-134b-497e-82b1-082d48f8767f df7548ecad684f26b8bc802ba63a9814 > 87e34c89e6fb41d2af25085b64011a55 - default default] 192.168.53.45 "GET > /v3/87e34c89e6fb41d2af25085b64011a55/volumes/detail HTTP/1.1" status: 200 > len: 4657 time: 0.1152730 > ==> volume.log <== > 2020-01-17 16:53:23.811 24723 WARNING py.warnings > [req-60fe4335-af66-4c46-9bbd-2408bf4d6f07 df7548ecad684f26b8bc802ba63a9814 > 87e34c89e6fb41d2af25085b64011a55 - default default] > /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/requests/packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py:852: > InsecureRequestWarning: Unverified HTTPS request is being made. Adding > certificate verification is strongly advised. See: > https://urllib3.readthedocs.io/en/latest/advanced-usage.html#ssl-warnings > InsecureRequestWarning) > : NimbleAPIException: Failed to execute api > snapshots/0464a5fd65d75fcfe1000000000000011100001a41: Error Code: 409 > Message: Snapshot snapshot-3806efc5-65ca-495a-a87a-baaddc9607d9 for volume > volume-5b02db35-8d5c-4ef6-b0e7-2f9b62cac57e has a clone. > 2020-01-17 16:53:23.902 24723 ERROR cinder.volume.drivers.nimble > [req-60fe4335-af66-4c46-9bbd-2408bf4d6f07 df7548ecad684f26b8bc802ba63a9814 > 87e34c89e6fb41d2af25085b64011a55 - default default] Re-throwing Exception > Failed to execute api snapshots/0464a5fd65d75fcfe1000000000000011100001a41: > Error Code: 409 Message: Snapshot > snapshot-3806efc5-65ca-495a-a87a-baaddc9607d9 for volume > volume-5b02db35-8d5c-4ef6-b0e7-2f9b62cac57e has a clone.: > NimbleAPIException: Failed to execute api > snapshots/0464a5fd65d75fcfe1000000000000011100001a41: Error Code: 409 > Message: Snapshot snapshot-3806efc5-65ca-495a-a87a-baaddc9607d9 for volume > volume-5b02db35-8d5c-4ef6-b0e7-2f9b62cac57e has a clone. > 2020-01-17 16:53:23.903 24723 WARNING cinder.volume.drivers.nimble > [req-60fe4335-af66-4c46-9bbd-2408bf4d6f07 df7548ecad684f26b8bc802ba63a9814 > 87e34c89e6fb41d2af25085b64011a55 - default default] Snapshot > snapshot-3806efc5-65ca-495a-a87a-baaddc9607d9 : has a clone: > NimbleAPIException: Failed to execute api > snapshots/0464a5fd65d75fcfe1000000000000011100001a41: Error Code: 409 > Message: Snapshot snapshot-3806efc5-65ca-495a-a87a-baaddc9607d9 for volume > volume-5b02db35-8d5c-4ef6-b0e7-2f9b62cac57e has a clone. > 2020-01-17 16:53:23.964 24723 WARNING cinder.quota > [req-60fe4335-af66-4c46-9bbd-2408bf4d6f07 df7548ecad684f26b8bc802ba63a9814 > 87e34c89e6fb41d2af25085b64011a55 - default default] Deprecated: Default > quota for resource: snapshots_Nimble-DR is set by the default quota flag: > quota_snapshots_Nimble-DR, it is now deprecated. Please use the default > quota class for default quota. > 2020-01-17 16:53:24.054 24723 INFO cinder.volume.manager > [req-60fe4335-af66-4c46-9bbd-2408bf4d6f07 df7548ecad684f26b8bc802ba63a9814 > 87e34c89e6fb41d2af25085b64011a55 - default default] Delete snapshot > completed successfully. Regards, *Tony Pearce* | *Senior Network Engineer / Infrastructure Lead**Cinglevue International <https://www.cinglevue.com>* Email: tony.pearce(a)cinglevue.com Web: http://www.cinglevue.com *Australia* 1 Walsh Loop, Joondalup, WA 6027 Australia. Direct: +61 8 6202 0036 | Main: +61 8 6202 0024 Note: This email and all attachments are the sole property of Cinglevue International Pty Ltd. (or any of its subsidiary entities), and the information contained herein must be considered confidential, unless specified otherwise. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use or forward the information contained in these documents. 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[nova] Nova CI busted, please hold rechecks
by Eric Fried 19 Jan '20

19 Jan '20

The nova-live-migration job is failing 100% since yesterday morning [1]. Your rechecks won't work until that's resolved. I'll send an all-clear message when we're green again. Thanks, efried [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1860021

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DR options with openstack
by Tony Pearce 18 Jan '20

18 Jan '20

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