On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Stefano Maffulli <stefano@openstack.org> wrote:
On 09/05/2014 04:27 PM, Luis Villa wrote:
Here's my reasoning: - CCLAs are mostly signed by corporate lawyers, like me. - Corporate lawyers, like me, like to print out and examine documents before signing them. Or at least ook at them in a window that can be properly resized/zoomed (unlike the awful, user-unfriendly Adobe widget.) - Careful corporate lawyers *particularly* like to print out and examine documents that are derived from other documents (ahem, Apache CLA), so that they can compare them carefully to the original/source document.
Totally understood, in fact these requests are not uncommon.
My reasoning is that I prefer to engage with corporate lawyers immediately before they go off on their own. Since we receive few requests, I prefer to know who is interested in signing it and help them out, with the CCLA and all the other complex things related to OpenStack.
Fair - I'm obviously better positioned than most to make that assessment. If that is your goal, though, I think you should make that explicit in the documentation: instead of pointing at the CCLA and then making the CCLA painful/irritating to sign (which makes you look, frankly, amateur), you should say bluntly "if this is your corporation's first time contributing, you should put your corporate lawyers or product managers in touch with corporate@openstack.org, who can help explain the process, point them at appropriate documentation (including this CCLA[link]) ..." etc. Thanks! (Hope this doesn't come across as super-critical, just trying to make you more user-friendly to an unusual but important class of user :) Luis -- Luis Villa Deputy General Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6810 *This message may be confidential or legally privileged. If you have received it by accident, please delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. For more on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer>.*