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Rhonda, All the resources mentioned in this thread are terrific.  You may also try "Ask OpenStack", the community-supported Q&A site for OpenStack users and developers. It's accessible here [1].  
 
[1] https://ask.openstack.org/
 
On Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:59pm, women-of-openstack-request at lists.openstack.org said:



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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 18:35:43 +0000
> From: Amy Marrich <Amy.Marrich at rackspace.com>
> To: Rhonda Eldridge <reldridge at technicacorp.com>,
> "women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org"
> <women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org>
> Subject: Re: [Women-of-openstack] Technica Inquiries on the List
> Message-ID: <D3296D8A.1B067%amy.marrich at rackspace.com>
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> Rhonda,
> 
> When I looked at fuel for an icehouse deployment at a former company the
> concern was that is was proprietary but that is no longer the case.
> There?s at least 4 options available that I can think of offhand within
> the OpenStack projects OSA (ansible), puppet, kolla and fuel and that?s
> not even taking into consideration projects such as heat which can be tied
> into a chef server.
> 
> Between the IRC channels and mailing lists you?ll get a lot of
> information, suggestions as well as opinions.:)
> 
> Look forward to meeting you in Austin!
> 
> Amy
> 
> On 4/5/16, 1:23 PM, "Rhonda Eldridge" <reldridge at technicacorp.com> wrote:
> 
> >Thank you, all! I commit to putting the question out on the other forums
> >and I just found another tool from Mirantis. Has anyone used it? Do you
> >agree with the recommendations or results?
> >
> >https://docs.mirantis.com/openstack/fuel/fuel-8.0/pdf/Mirantis-OpenStack-8
> >.0-PlanningGuide.pdf
> >
> >https://www.mirantis.com/blog/hardware-bom-calculator-controllers-switches
> >-bells-and-whistles/
> >
> >https://software.mirantis.com/reference-documentation-on-fuel-folsom-2-1/s
> >izing-hardware/
> >
> >
> >
> >Looking forward to meeting some of you in Austin,
> >Rhonda
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Rochelle Grober [mailto:rochelle.grober at huawei.com]
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 2:05 PM
> >To: Gema Gomez <gema at ggomez.me>; women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org
> >Subject: Re: [Women-of-openstack] Technica Inquiries on the List
> >
> >Great advice, Gema and Amy.
> >
> >Three node is definitely the smallest size anyone should consider for a
> >working setup as opposed to test/R&D. I've been trying to get "reference
> >architecture" for a three node and a five node HA cloud, as this is
> >tribal knowledge within the Ops community, but getting it defined and
> >documented has not really gone anywhere. Maybe we can get this going
> >through a collaboration with this group, Ops and somd specific Docs folks.
> >
> >--Rocky
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Gema Gomez [mailto:gema at ggomez.me]
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 10:58 AM
> >To: women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org
> >Subject: Re: [Women-of-openstack] Technica Inquiries on the List
> >
> >I totally agree with Amy.
> >
> >It very much depends on how chunky your single node is compared to the
> >amount of resources your VMs are going to require. Decide what kind of
> >flavors you are going to use (i.e. how much memory, CPU and HD you will
> >need per VM) and then do the math to see how many of those you can fit on
> >your node. It all depends very much on your workload. If you are going to
> >have many small VMs, you'll be able to get more out of your HW than if
> >you have one big VM eating all the resources.
> >
> >Also, simple maintenance tasks like upgrading packages/kernel will cause
> >a disruption to your service.
> >
> >I wouldn't go to production with less than 3 nodes for a small and cozy
> >cloud.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Gema
> >
> >On 05/04/16 18:47, Amy Marrich wrote:
> >> Rhonda,
> >>
> >> Well main disadvantage would be single point of failure, we do
> >> something very similar with the OpenStack-Ansible project's AIO
> >> installs but those are generally fro PoC and development. My guess
> >> from experience is compute and network will grow before storage but it
> >> depends on your use case.
> >>
> >> I think you'd get the best response probably over in the #openstack
> >> channel on freenode, lots of folks over there to answer questions.
> >>
> >> Amy
> >>
> >> From: Rhonda Eldridge <reldridge at technicacorp.com
> >> <mailto:reldridge at technicacorp.com>>
> >> Date: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 at 12:36 PM
> >> To: Amy Marrich <amy.marrich at rackspace.com
> >> <mailto:amy.marrich at rackspace.com>>,
> >> "women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org
> >> <mailto:women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org>"
> >> <women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org
> >> <mailto:women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org>>
> >> Subject: RE: [Women-of-openstack] Technica Inquiries on the List
> >>
> >> Thank you, Amy! Here goes:
> >>
> >> We have a Contrail Cloud Platform Configuration. We are considering a
> >> single node reference that is then extended to additional nodes based on
> >> the growth. It is unknown if compute, storage, or networking
> >> requirements will grow first. What are the advantages and
> >> disadvantages of this approach?
> >>
> >> I appreciate the encouragement.
> >>
> >> Rhonda
> >>
> >> *From:* Amy Marrich [mailto:Amy.Marrich at rackspace.com]
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2016 1:21 PM
> >> *To:* Rhonda Eldridge <reldridge at technicacorp.com
> >> <mailto:reldridge at technicacorp.com>>;
> >> women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org
> >> <mailto:women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org>
> >> *Subject:* Re: [Women-of-openstack] Technica Inquiries on the List
> >>
> >> Rhonda,
> >>
> >> Go for it, if we can't answer we can probably point you in the right
> >> direction.
> >>
> >> Amy
> >>
> >> *From: *Rhonda Eldridge <reldridge at technicacorp.com
> >> <mailto:reldridge at technicacorp.com>>
> >> *Date: *Tuesday, April 5, 2016 at 12:18 PM
> >> *To: *"women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org
> >> <mailto:women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org>"
> >> <women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org
> >> <mailto:women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org>>
> >> *Subject: *[Women-of-openstack] Technica Inquiries on the List
> >>
> >> Hello -
> >>
> >> I am a new member of this list. I would like to post a technical
> >> question and get the opinion of this community, but I also want to
> >> respect the intention of the topics on this list.
> >>
> >> Can someone let me know if a technical inquiry would be welcomed?
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >>
> >> Rhonda Eldridge
> >>
> >> Director of Engineering
> >>
> >> Technica Corporation
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Women-of-openstack mailing list
> >> Women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org
> >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/women-of-openstack
> >>
> >
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 18:51:11 +0000
> From: Sheryl Sick <sheryls at redapt.com>
> To: Rochelle Grober <rochelle.grober at huawei.com>, Gema Gomez
> <gema at ggomez.me>, "women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org"
> <women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org>, Rhonda Eldridge
> <reldridge at technicacorp.com>
> Subject: Re: [Women-of-openstack] Technica Inquiries on the List
> Message-ID:
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> 
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> 
> Hello ladies and looking forward to meeting everyone in a few weeks!
> 
> Redapt has deployed several RA variations of OpenStack. We have worked pretty
> closely with Mirantis on multiple projects. I can send over details of an RA later
> this afternoon.
> 
> Sheryl Sick | SAE Technology Solutions
> Redapt, Inc. 206.218.6690<tel:206.218.6690>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 11:26 AM -0700, "Rhonda Eldridge"
> <reldridge at technicacorp.com<mailto:reldridge at technicacorp.com>>
> wrote:
> 
> Thank you, all! I commit to putting the question out on the other forums and I
> just found another tool from Mirantis. Has anyone used it? Do you agree with the
> recommendations or results?
> 
> https://docs.mirantis.com/openstack/fuel/fuel-8.0/pdf/Mirantis-OpenStack-8.0-PlanningGuide.pdf
> 
> https://www.mirantis.com/blog/hardware-bom-calculator-controllers-switches-bells-and-whistles/
> 
> https://software.mirantis.com/reference-documentation-on-fuel-folsom-2-1/sizing-hardware/
> 
> 
> 
> Looking forward to meeting some of you in Austin,
> Rhonda
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rochelle Grober [mailto:rochelle.grober at huawei.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 2:05 PM
> To: Gema Gomez <gema at ggomez.me>; women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org
> Subject: Re: [Women-of-openstack] Technica Inquiries on the List
> 
> Great advice, Gema and Amy.
> 
> Three node is definitely the smallest size anyone should consider for a working
> setup as opposed to test/R&D. I've been trying to get "reference architecture"
> for a three node and a five node HA cloud, as this is tribal knowledge within the
> Ops community, but getting it defined and documented has not really gone anywhere.
> Maybe we can get this going through a collaboration with this group, Ops and somd
> specific Docs folks.
> 
> --Rocky
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gema Gomez [mailto:gema at ggomez.me]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 10:58 AM
> To: women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org
> Subject: Re: [Women-of-openstack] Technica Inquiries on the List
> 
> I totally agree with Amy.
> 
> It very much depends on how chunky your single node is compared to the amount of
> resources your VMs are going to require. Decide what kind of flavors you are going
> to use (i.e. how much memory, CPU and HD you will need per VM) and then do the
> math to see how many of those you can fit on your node. It all depends very much
> on your workload. If you are going to have many small VMs, you'll be able to get
> more out of your HW than if you have one big VM eating all the resources.
> 
> Also, simple maintenance tasks like upgrading packages/kernel will cause a
> disruption to your service.
> 
> I wouldn't go to production with less than 3 nodes for a small and cozy cloud.
> 
> Cheers,
> Gema
> 
> On 05/04/16 18:47, Amy Marrich wrote:
> > Rhonda,
> >
> > Well main disadvantage would be single point of failure, we do
> > something very similar with the OpenStack-Ansible project's AIO
> > installs but those are generally fro PoC and development. My guess
> > from experience is compute and network will grow before storage but it
> > depends on your use case.
> >
> > I think you'd get the best response probably over in the #openstack
> > channel on freenode, lots of folks over there to answer questions.
> >
> > Amy
> >
> > From: Rhonda Eldridge <reldridge at technicacorp.com
> > <mailto:reldridge at technicacorp.com>>
> > Date: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 at 12:36 PM
> > To: Amy Marrich <amy.marrich at rackspace.com
> > <mailto:amy.marrich at rackspace.com>>,
> > "women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org
> > <mailto:women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org>"
> > <women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org
> > <mailto:women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org>>
> > Subject: RE: [Women-of-openstack] Technica Inquiries on the List
> >
> > Thank you, Amy! Here goes:
> >
> > We have a Contrail Cloud Platform Configuration. We are considering a
> > single node reference that is then extended to additional nodes based on
> > the growth. It is unknown if compute, storage, or networking
> > requirements will grow first. What are the advantages and
> > disadvantages of this approach?
> >
> > I appreciate the encouragement.
> >
> > Rhonda
> >
> > *From:* Amy Marrich [mailto:Amy.Marrich at rackspace.com]
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2016 1:21 PM
> > *To:* Rhonda Eldridge <reldridge at technicacorp.com
> > <mailto:reldridge at technicacorp.com>>;
> > women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org
> > <mailto:women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org>
> > *Subject:* Re: [Women-of-openstack] Technica Inquiries on the List
> >
> > Rhonda,
> >
> > Go for it, if we can't answer we can probably point you in the right
> > direction.
> >
> > Amy
> >
> > *From: *Rhonda Eldridge <reldridge at technicacorp.com
> > <mailto:reldridge at technicacorp.com>>
> > *Date: *Tuesday, April 5, 2016 at 12:18 PM
> > *To: *"women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org
> > <mailto:women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org>"
> > <women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org
> > <mailto:women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org>>
> > *Subject: *[Women-of-openstack] Technica Inquiries on the List
> >
> > Hello -
> >
> > I am a new member of this list. I would like to post a technical
> > question and get the opinion of this community, but I also want to
> > respect the intention of the topics on this list.
> >
> > Can someone let me know if a technical inquiry would be welcomed?
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Rhonda Eldridge
> >
> > Director of Engineering
> >
> > Technica Corporation
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Women-of-openstack mailing list
> > Women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org
> > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/women-of-openstack
> >
> 
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> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 18:59:27 +0000
> From: Rhonda Eldridge <reldridge at technicacorp.com>
> To: Sheryl Sick <sheryls at redapt.com>, Rochelle Grober
> <rochelle.grober at huawei.com>, Gema Gomez <gema at ggomez.me>,
> "women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org"
> <women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org>
> Subject: Re: [Women-of-openstack] Technica Inquiries on the List
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> 
> Thank you, Sheryl!
> 
> Sincerely,
> Rhonda
> 
> From: Sheryl Sick [mailto:sheryls at redapt.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 2:51 PM
> To: Rochelle Grober <rochelle.grober at huawei.com>; Gema Gomez
> <gema at ggomez.me>; women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org; Rhonda Eldridge
> <reldridge at technicacorp.com>
> Subject: Re: [Women-of-openstack] Technica Inquiries on the List
> 
> Hello ladies and looking forward to meeting everyone in a few weeks!
> 
> Redapt has deployed several RA variations of OpenStack. We have worked pretty
> closely with Mirantis on multiple projects. I can send over details of an RA later
> this afternoon.
> Sheryl Sick | SAE Technology Solutions
> Redapt, Inc. 206.218.6690<tel:206.218.6690>
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 11:26 AM -0700, "Rhonda Eldridge"
> <reldridge at technicacorp.com<mailto:reldridge at technicacorp.com>>
> wrote:
> Thank you, all! I commit to putting the question out on the other forums and I
> just found another tool from Mirantis. Has anyone used it? Do you agree with the
> recommendations or results?
> 
> https://docs.mirantis.com/openstack/fuel/fuel-8.0/pdf/Mirantis-OpenStack-8.0-PlanningGuide.pdf
> 
> https://www.mirantis.com/blog/hardware-bom-calculator-controllers-switches-bells-and-whistles/
> 
> https://software.mirantis.com/reference-documentation-on-fuel-folsom-2-1/sizing-hardware/
> 
> 
> 
> Looking forward to meeting some of you in Austin,
> Rhonda
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rochelle Grober [mailto:rochelle.grober at huawei.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 2:05 PM
> To: Gema Gomez <gema at ggomez.me<mailto:gema at ggomez.me>>;
> women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org<mailto:women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org>
> Subject: Re: [Women-of-openstack] Technica Inquiries on the List
> 
> Great advice, Gema and Amy.
> 
> Three node is definitely the smallest size anyone should consider for a working
> setup as opposed to test/R&D. I've been trying to get "reference architecture"
> for a three node and a five node HA cloud, as this is tribal knowledge within the
> Ops community, but getting it defined and documented has not really gone anywhere.
> Maybe we can get this going through a collaboration with this group, Ops and somd
> specific Docs folks.
> 
> --Rocky
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gema Gomez [mailto:gema at ggomez.me]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 10:58 AM
> To:
> women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org<mailto:women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org>
> Subject: Re: [Women-of-openstack] Technica Inquiries on the List
> 
> I totally agree with Amy.
> 
> It very much depends on how chunky your single node is compared to the amount of
> resources your VMs are going to require. Decide what kind of flavors you are going
> to use (i.e. how much memory, CPU and HD you will need per VM) and then do the
> math to see how many of those you can fit on your node. It all depends very much
> on your workload. If you are going to have many small VMs, you'll be able to get
> more out of your HW than if you have one big VM eating all the resources.
> 
> Also, simple maintenance tasks like upgrading packages/kernel will cause a
> disruption to your service.
> 
> I wouldn't go to production with less than 3 nodes for a small and cozy cloud.
> 
> Cheers,
> Gema
> 
> On 05/04/16 18:47, Amy Marrich wrote:
> > Rhonda,
> >
> > Well main disadvantage would be single point of failure, we do
> > something very similar with the OpenStack-Ansible project's AIO
> > installs but those are generally fro PoC and development. My guess
> > from experience is compute and network will grow before storage but it
> > depends on your use case.
> >
> > I think you'd get the best response probably over in the #openstack
> > channel on freenode, lots of folks over there to answer questions.
> >
> > Amy
> >
> > From: Rhonda Eldridge <reldridge at technicacorp.com
> <mailto:reldridge at technicacorp.com%20%0b>>
> <mailto:reldridge at technicacorp.com>>
> > Date: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 at 12:36 PM
> > To: Amy Marrich <amy.marrich at rackspace.com
> <mailto:amy.marrich at rackspace.com%20%0b>>
> <mailto:amy.marrich at rackspace.com>>,
> > "women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org
> > <mailto:women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org>"
> > <women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org
> <mailto:women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org%0b>>
> <mailto:women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org>>
> > Subject: RE: [Women-of-openstack] Technica Inquiries on the List
> >
> > Thank you, Amy! Here goes:
> >
> > We have a Contrail Cloud Platform Configuration. We are considering a
> > single node reference that is then extended to additional nodes based on
> > the growth. It is unknown if compute, storage, or networking
> > requirements will grow first. What are the advantages and
> > disadvantages of this approach?
> >
> > I appreciate the encouragement.
> >
> > Rhonda
> >
> > *From:* Amy Marrich [mailto:Amy.Marrich at rackspace.com]
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2016 1:21 PM
> > *To:* Rhonda Eldridge <reldridge at technicacorp.com
> <mailto:reldridge at technicacorp.com%20%0b>>
> <mailto:reldridge at technicacorp.com>>;
> >
> women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org<mailto:women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org>
> > <mailto:women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org>
> > *Subject:* Re: [Women-of-openstack] Technica Inquiries on the List
> >
> > Rhonda,
> >
> > Go for it, if we can't answer we can probably point you in the right
> > direction.
> >
> > Amy
> >
> > *From: *Rhonda Eldridge <reldridge at technicacorp.com
> <mailto:reldridge at technicacorp.com%20%0b>>
> <mailto:reldridge at technicacorp.com>>
> > *Date: *Tuesday, April 5, 2016 at 12:18 PM
> > *To: *"women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org
> > <mailto:women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org>"
> > <women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org
> <mailto:women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org%0b>>
> <mailto:women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org>>
> > *Subject: *[Women-of-openstack] Technica Inquiries on the List
> >
> > Hello -
> >
> > I am a new member of this list. I would like to post a technical
> > question and get the opinion of this community, but I also want to
> > respect the intention of the topics on this list.
> >
> > Can someone let me know if a technical inquiry would be welcomed?
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Rhonda Eldridge
> >
> > Director of Engineering
> >
> > Technica Corporation
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Women-of-openstack mailing list
> >
> Women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org<mailto:Women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org>
> > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/women-of-openstack
> >
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