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Hi all,

Renaming channels is not possible in Freenode, so the easiest way would be to create a new channel. #openstack-women sounds great, I have seen the same
approach in other open source communities -- I'm thinking about GNOME women.

Now, regarding adding privacy measures to it. I don't agree that we should make it private nor kick people out because they don't agree explicitly to the
code of conduct. That puts us in a defensive position and maybe makes things harder. I'd like to keep things open because OpenStack is an open source community.
Also, I think that adding different rules would just alienate us without need.
We should open #openstack-women as it were any other channel under the #openstack- umbrella,
create a code of conduct and, if someone breaks that code of conduct, then proceed to kick/ban them out.
If you please, I could ask for some feedback from the folks in the GNOME community.

I volunteer to do so.

Thanks,

Victoria

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anne Gentle" <annegentle at justwriteclick.com>
To: "Susie Gray" <susie.gray at hp.com>
Cc: women-of-openstack at lists.openstack.org
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 11:26:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Women-of-openstack] IRC channel followup from working	breakfast.



On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:11 PM, Gray, Susie < susie.gray at hp.com > wrote: 


Hey y'all 

So I pretty much found out straight away that the "rules" for channels we manage on freenode should allow us to have a private channel as it's for a "diversity type" reason. 

Hi Susie, 
Well... but the TC just passed a resolution to prevent private IRC channels. [1] I'd like to see us agreeing to that guidance. 

I was going to propose we use the existing open #openstack-opw channel, which we use for the Outreach Program for Women, now named Outreachy. Since -opw isn't the name of the program any more, we could rename the channel #openstack-women. 

I've talked to people who run channels with a requirement upon entry of answering the question in the affirmative, "Do you agree to our terms (with a link to the terms)?" If someone doesn't answer or hedges, then they are kicked. If they still come back, but won't agree to the terms, they are banned. Thing is, that turns into a trollbait channel and you have to have 24x7 coverage to ask and if you don't get the answer you need, to kick, then ban the person who won't agree to the terms. I'm not sure we need that level of filter. 

My proposal would be to re-use the existing #openstack-opw channel, renaming to #openstack-women (keeping with some other patterns in open source [2]), and keeping it public. We should also decide if an agreement upon entry is the way we want to go with this to help with the goal of ensuring the channel remains open but with known goals for interaction. 

What do you all think? 
Thanks, 
Anne 

1. http://governance.openstack.org/reference/irc.html 
2. http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/IRC 



Technically I've found a person with admin rights who is willing to help set this up. I'm happy to help with any maintenance if there is any also. I think it should also be non-logged to add to it being a "safe-space" for us to just chat. 

We will also need volunteers to write up some documentation with links to websites which are appropriate to 000 baby/completely non technical folk in order to help them get set up and running. A lot of the technology us techies take for granted is very very scary to non-technical people and we need to support all our colleagues not just the techies. 

Currently I was told we needed to run this past the foundation and get it okayed before going ahead. I am not aware of who to speak to or how this needs to be approached. Can the organisers help with this please? 

Cheers, 

-grue- 

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