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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks for setting clear rules of governance.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Edgar Magana [mailto:edgar.magana@workday.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 15, 2017 3:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Melvin Hillsman <mrhillsman@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> user-committee <user-committee@lists.openstack.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [User-committee] SIG Governance<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thank for the clarification. I fully support the temporal proposal.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Melvin Hillsman <<a href="mailto:mrhillsman@gmail.com">mrhillsman@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, December 15, 2017 at 1:35 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Edgar Magana <<a href="mailto:edgar.magana@workday.com">edgar.magana@workday.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Jeremy Stanley <<a href="mailto:fungi@yuggoth.org">fungi@yuggoth.org</a>>, user-committee <<a href="mailto:user-committee@lists.openstack.org">user-committee@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [User-committee] SIG Governance<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, I believe I am saying the same thing but if not, what Jeremy said. There is attempt to usurp what exists, just that quite a few folks have moved over to being a SIG and 1) we need to revisit governance and 2) until we come to a conclusion
during revisit what should we do. Pardon if I presented something other than that or was not clear leaving others to assume.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Dec 15, 2017 3:19 PM, "Edgar Magana" <<a href="mailto:edgar.magana@workday.com">edgar.magana@workday.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Totally agree with Jeremy. We (UC and TC) should work together to move SIG from that grey area to a formal charter structure.<br>
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Edgar<br>
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On 12/15/17, 11:56 AM, "Jeremy Stanley" <<a href="mailto:fungi@yuggoth.org">fungi@yuggoth.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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On 2017-12-15 11:43:13 -0600 (-0600), Melvin Hillsman wrote:<br>
> Sure, as you both know nothing is set in stone at this point.<br>
> Right now it simply answers the question(s) of who are the folks<br>
> on the hook to stay updated with what is happening with SIGs,<br>
> answer questions, provide suggestions, etc, as is currently stated<br>
> on the SIGs wiki page -<br>
> <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.openstack.org_wiki_OpenStack-5FSIGs&d=DwMFaQ&c=DS6PUFBBr_KiLo7Sjt3ljp5jaW5k2i9ijVXllEdOozc&r=G0XRJfDQsuBvqa_wpWyDAUlSpeMV4W1qfWqBfctlWwQ&m=69tyQuALYUY0lqKLIiOH5RFtZBuXKH46ZmNRXhI3TA8&s=J0vNBlxV77cIGRCtPz2LduhwkPHKYIpfzU5XOdvGiJQ&e=" target="_blank">
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_SIGs</a>. No formal<br>
> resolutions have been adopted or changed and it would be great for<br>
> us to answer the questions you and Shamail listed together during<br>
> the meeting or at least come up with some proposed answers to the<br>
> questions and gather feedback.<br>
[...]<br>
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It was more of a question of, if there is a disagreement within a<br>
SIG or between SIGs, to what arbitrating body do they appeal to<br>
reach some conclusion in the matter? The technical community can<br>
appeal to the TC for decisions, the user community to the UC, but<br>
SIGs are a grey area at the moment where this sort of thing is<br>
concerned.<br>
--<br>
Jeremy Stanley<br>
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