<div dir="ltr">Awesome to hear Adam! No need to wait for the next Summit either is our hope. We are working on a proposal in the coming days that we hope will get some great feedback and be solidified from the community.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Adam Spiers <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aspiers@suse.com" target="_blank">aspiers@suse.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Jimmy and Melvin,<br>
<br>
Just a post-Boston follow-up to thank you guys for the advice you gave<br>
below, and to let you know the outcome. My colleague Sampath<br>
organised a Forum session for general HA discussion which we<br>
co-chaired, and it was really well attended with some good<br>
discussions!<br>
<br>
<a href="https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-forum-HA-in-openstack" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://etherpad.openstack.or<wbr>g/p/BOS-forum-HA-in-openstack</a><br>
<br>
I have just sent a follow-up message to openstack-{dev,operators}:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/116703.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.openstack.org/pi<wbr>permail/openstack-dev/2017-May<wbr>/116703.html</a><br>
<br>
Thanks again, and I hope that we can continue to host these forum<br>
discussions at future summits!<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Adam<br>
<br>
Jimmy McArthur <<a href="mailto:jimmy@openstack.org" target="_blank">jimmy@openstack.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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Agree with Melvin here. Another suggestion is to put the BoF on the schedule if you think it can garner enough attendance. As Melvin suggests, grab a co-presenter/moderator or two. I would also suggest attending sessions that you think might have an audience that would be a fit for you BoF and letting people know about the discussion.<br>
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Melvin Hillsman <mailto:<a href="mailto:mrhillsman@gmail.com" target="_blank">mrhillsman@gmail.com</a>><span class=""><br>
March 28, 2017 at 6:32 PM<br>
Hey Adam,<br>
<br>
Might I suggest simply suggesting the session via <a href="http://forumtopics.openstack.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://forumtopics.openstack.o<wbr>rg</a><br>
<br>
You will want to ensure that you or another person who is keen to get the feedback you think is relevant can moderate the session as well.<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Kind regards,<br>
<br>
Melvin Hillsman<br>
Ops Technical Lead<br>
OpenStack Innovation Center<br>
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Adam Spiers <mailto:<a href="mailto:aspiers@suse.com" target="_blank">aspiers@suse.com</a>><div><div class="h5"><br>
March 28, 2017 at 7:12 AM<br>
Hi there,<br>
<br>
There is no official Working Group for High Availability, but in my<br>
(admittedly biased) experience as the chair of the weekly HA IRC<br>
meetings, the lack of a designated space for HA discussions has been a<br>
problem in pretty much every one of the 9 conference-summits and PTG<br>
I've attended. I raised this last year:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/100570.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.openstack.org/pi<wbr>permail/openstack-dev/2016-Aug<wbr>ust/100570.html</a><br>
<br>
<br>
Pretty much all the topics I mentioned in that mail are still<br>
relevant. The difficulty in coordinating the right kinds of<br>
discussions between the right kind of people is that OpenStack HA is a<br>
mixed pot of topics which overlap to very different degrees. For<br>
example the use of technologies such as Pacemaker and tooz potentially<br>
span multiple projects, as does feedback from operators[0], whereas<br>
other HA topics can be entirely specific to one project (Neutron is a<br>
good example of this).<br>
<br>
Feedback from operators to developers on HA is one area I would<br>
particularly like to see more space for. For example, there was a<br>
very interesting HA-oriented session at the recent MIL ops meetup:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MIL-ops-rabbitmq-pitfalls-ha" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://etherpad.openstack.org<wbr>/p/MIL-ops-rabbitmq-pitfalls-<wbr>ha</a><br>
<br>
Unfortunately I was not at the event so I don't know how many upstream<br>
developers attended the session, or if there was any feedback sent to<br>
developers as a consequence. And conversely, there didn't seem to be<br>
many operators at the Atlanta PTG. But the main conference events<br>
could serve as a great opportunity for connecting operators with<br>
developers for these kinds of discussions.<br>
<br>
I'm hesitant to propose a new HA working group, because I doubt<br>
there'd be sufficient cohesion of interests across the whole group,<br>
and it might well be overkill. A BoF approach would probably make<br>
more sense, but I have to admit I don't have a lot of experience in<br>
coordinating these kinds of face-to-face discussions, so any advice on<br>
how best to handle this would be most welcome!<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Adam<br></div></div>
Jimmy McArthur <mailto:<a href="mailto:jimmy@openstack.org" target="_blank">jimmy@openstack.org</a>><span class=""><br>
March 27, 2017 at 1:41 PM<br>
Good day!<br>
<br>
We are putting a call out to any additional Working Groups that might require space for the OpenStack Summit Boston, May 8-11th! The initial call was for official working groups, but we have additional space that we would love to fill with other Working Groups in need.<br>
<br>
Please submit all space requests to <a href="mailto:speakersupport@openstack.org" target="_blank">speakersupport@openstack.org</a>. All we need is the name of your Working Group and the person that will be adding the presentation details. We will fill them in the order received and send instructions for logging in and entering your data. All requests must be received by Friday, March 31.<br>
<br>
If we have additional room (and we likely will), we will open it up to BoFs.<br>
<br>
Thank you!<br>
Jimmy McArthur & Erin Disney<br>
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