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</head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">Agree with Melvin here.
Another suggestion is to put the BoF on the schedule if you think it can
garner enough attendance. As Melvin suggests, grab a
co-presenter/moderator or two. I would also suggest attending sessions
that you think might have an audience that would be a fit for you BoF
and letting people know about the discussion.<br>
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Adam,<br><br></div>Might I suggest simply suggesting the session via <a
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<br><br></div>You will want to ensure that you or another person who is
keen to get the feedback you think is relevant can moderate the session
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<br><br>
<br>There is no official Working Group for High Availability, but in my
<br>(admittedly biased) experience as the chair of the weekly HA IRC
<br>meetings, the lack of a designated space for HA discussions has been
a
<br>problem in pretty much every one of the 9 conference-summits and PTG
<br>I've attended. I raised this last year:
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/100570.html">http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/100570.html</a>
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<br>Pretty much all the topics I mentioned in that mail are still
<br>relevant. The difficulty in coordinating the right kinds of
<br>discussions between the right kind of people is that OpenStack HA is
a
<br>mixed pot of topics which overlap to very different degrees. For
<br>example the use of technologies such as Pacemaker and tooz
potentially
<br>span multiple projects, as does feedback from operators[0], whereas
<br>other HA topics can be entirely specific to one project (Neutron is a
<br>good example of this).
<br>
<br>Feedback from operators to developers on HA is one area I would
<br>particularly like to see more space for. For example, there was a
<br>very interesting HA-oriented session at the recent MIL ops meetup:
<br>
<br> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MIL-ops-rabbitmq-pitfalls-ha">https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MIL-ops-rabbitmq-pitfalls-ha</a>
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<br>Unfortunately I was not at the event so I don't know how many
upstream
<br>developers attended the session, or if there was any feedback sent
to
<br>developers as a consequence. And conversely, there didn't seem to
be
<br>many operators at the Atlanta PTG. But the main conference events
<br>could serve as a great opportunity for connecting operators with
<br>developers for these kinds of discussions.
<br>
<br>I'm hesitant to propose a new HA working group, because I doubt
<br>there'd be sufficient cohesion of interests across the whole group,
<br>and it might well be overkill. A BoF approach would probably make
<br>more sense, but I have to admit I don't have a lot of experience in
<br>coordinating these kinds of face-to-face discussions, so any advice
on
<br>how best to handle this would be most welcome!
<br>
<br>Thanks,
<br>Adam
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__pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody">Good day!
<br>
<br>We are putting a call out to any additional Working Groups that
might
require space for the OpenStack Summit Boston, May 8-11th! The initial
call was for official working groups, but we have additional space that
we would love to fill with other Working Groups in need.
<br>
<br>Please submit all space requests to <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:speakersupport@openstack.org">speakersupport@openstack.org</a>.
All we
need is the name of your Working Group and the person that will be
adding the presentation details. We will fill them in the order received
and send instructions for logging in and entering your data. All
requests must be received by Friday, March 31.
<br>
<br>If we have additional room (and we likely will), we will open it up
to
BoFs.
<br>
<br>Thank you!
<br>Jimmy McArthur & Erin Disney
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