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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Jimmy Mcarthur <<a href="mailto:jimmy@tipit.net">jimmy@tipit.net</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Monday, December 12, 2016 at 7:14 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Patricia Montenegro <<a href="mailto:patricia.montenegro@intel.com">patricia.montenegro@intel.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>Lauren Sell <<a href="mailto:lauren@openstack.org">lauren@openstack.org</a>>, Anne Gentle <<a href="mailto:annegentle@justwriteclick.com">annegentle@justwriteclick.com</a>>, user-committee <<a href="mailto:user-committee@lists.openstack.org">user-committee@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [User-committee] [app] Revamp openstack.org/appdev<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">Patricia,<br>
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Can you tell me what time the meeting is today?<br>
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Thank you!<br>
Jimmy McArthur<br>
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<font color="#9FA2A5"><span style="padding-left:6px">December 9, 2016 at 6:15 PM</span></font></div>
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<div>Thanks Lauren, Anne and Flanders!</div>
<div>I took the action last week to map the exiting content and this is what I produced:</div>
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<div> We’re meeting again this Monday, I’ve added your recommendations that we start defining goals and audience and sketch content ideas. It’d be great if you could join.</div>
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<div>Agenda: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/2016_Dec_12_App_Dev_Enablement">https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/2016_Dec_12_App_Dev_Enablement</a></div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Lauren Sell <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:lauren@openstack.org">lauren@openstack.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 6:06 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Anne Gentle <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:annegentle@justwriteclick.com">annegentle@justwriteclick.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>Patricia Montenegro <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:patricia.montenegro@intel.com">patricia.montenegro@intel.com</a>>, user-committee <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:user-committee@lists.openstack.org">user-committee@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [User-committee] [app] Revamp openstack.org/appdev<br>
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Yes! The page was launched mid-2015 and meant to promote the first app guide, as well as aggregate relevant content for app developers. Since that time we added links to content developed by the ISV working group, as well as the containers white paper and landing
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<div>The page is in great need of a content overhaul, and I would for the working group to collaborate with members of the Foundation staff web/design/content team. We just need to figure out the right model for engagement for the initial content development,
as well as ongoing updates. I’m going to chat with the Foundation team and come back with some ideas, but it’s worth getting started on goals and sketching out content ideas in the meantime.</div>
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I suggest that first we clearly define the audience(s) and goals for the page. We’re generally making an effort to better define audience/role, goals and their path through the website (and community) as we continue to add more content to
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="" href="http://openstack.org">openstack.org</a>. </div>
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<div>As we’ve informally talked about the page amongst the Foundation staff, we think it’s important to be interactive, hands-on and to recognize that there’s additional complexity due to sub-audiences defined by different tools and technology stacks. </div>
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<div>Since the page was launched, a few new resources developed by the community include the Cloud App Labs (hands-on!), which were debuted at the Barcelona Summit, Superuser articles, hackathons and of course new presentations and videos from the Summit and
other events.</div>
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Agree that <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="" href="http://developer.openstack.org">
developer.openstack.org</a> is another very important resource. I believe the working group is already eyeing it, but as always, there is a general need for more resources :)</div>
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<font color="#9FA2A5"><span style="padding-left:6px">December 7, 2016 at 8:06 AM</span></font></div>
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Yes! The page was launched mid-2015 and meant to promote the first app guide, as well as aggregate relevant content for app developers. Since that time we added links to content developed by the ISV working group, as well as the containers white paper and landing
page. </div>
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<div>The page is in great need of a content overhaul, and I would for the working group to collaborate with members of the Foundation staff web/design/content team. We just need to figure out the right model for engagement for the initial content development,
as well as ongoing updates. I’m going to chat with the Foundation team and come back with some ideas, but it’s worth getting started on goals and sketching out content ideas in the meantime.</div>
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I suggest that first we clearly define the audience(s) and goals for the page. We’re generally making an effort to better define audience/role, goals and their path through the website (and community) as we continue to add more content to
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="" href="http://openstack.org">openstack.org</a>. </div>
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<div>As we’ve informally talked about the page amongst the Foundation staff, we think it’s important to be interactive, hands-on and to recognize that there’s additional complexity due to sub-audiences defined by different tools and technology stacks. </div>
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<div>Since the page was launched, a few new resources developed by the community include the Cloud App Labs (hands-on!), which were debuted at the Barcelona Summit, Superuser articles, hackathons and of course new presentations and videos from the Summit and
other events.</div>
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Agree that <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="" href="http://developer.openstack.org">
developer.openstack.org</a> is another very important resource. I believe the working group is already eyeing it, but as always, there is a general need for more resources :)</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px">As part of the App Developer Enablement WG goals for this cycle we want to improve
<a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank" href="http://openstack.org/appdev">openstack.org/appdev</a>. The goal is to make it a reference for app developers that want to adopt OpenStack clouds. To get started we need help from the community with the following
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<div>I believe the Foundation started this up in 2015 to get re-use out of the First App content and video content. The First App content was written in a book sprint in June 2015, led by Tom Fifield, blog post here: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.openstack.org/blog/2015/07/writing-your-first-openstack-application/">http://www.openstack.org/blog/2015/07/writing-your-first-openstack-application/</a>.</div>
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<div>The content consists of:</div>
<div>a link to <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.openstack.org/isv">www.openstack.org/isv</a></div>
<div>a link to the First App guide for libcloud</div>
<div>a link to a containers white paper</div>
<div>a link to <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://developer.openstack.org">developer.openstack.org</a></div>
<div>a link to the <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://app.openstack.org">app.openstack.org</a> site</div>
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<div>I'll have to think about this question more. PaaS comes to mind as does the app architecture references. </div>
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<div>But. If this page is meant to be a marketing page, consider working on <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://developer.openstack.org">
developer.openstack.org</a> instead. That's easier for community members to change as it's sourced in git.</div>
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