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<p class="MsoPlainText">The current workflow seems fine to me and looks like it does represents the stages as proposed?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ProductTeam/User_Stories#User_Story_Workflow">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ProductTeam/User_Stories#User_Story_Workflow</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Current workflow:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>Proposed User Story<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>New user story is submitted as a patch to repo (gerrit-status: review)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.1.1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>Template validated, mandatory sections filled (gerrit-status: review)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.1.2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>Concept discussed on gerrit (gerrit-status: review)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.1.3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>Concept validated by user-story-owner and reviewer/core (gerrit-status: merged)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.1.4.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>Initial JSON file created (available on User Story Tracker)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>Changes to existing user story is submitted as a single patch per changes to repo (gerrit-status: review)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.2.1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>Changes discussed on gerrit (gerrit-status: review)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.2.2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>Changes validated by owner and reviewer (gerrit-status: merged)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.2.3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>JSON file updated <o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>Gap and Overlap Analysis<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.55in;text-indent:-.3in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>User-story-owner schedule meeting with technical SME and CPSL<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.55in;text-indent:-.3in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>Prioritize features/requirements<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>Identify features/requirements that requires new blueprint/spec<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.3.1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>Work with SME/developer to propose and develop new blueprint/spec<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.4.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>Identify existing related blueprint/spec <o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.5.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>JSON file updated with links to blueprint/spec for each features/requirements<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.6.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>Communicate blueprint/spec with project PTL/Core<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.55in;text-indent:-.3in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.7.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>In case of “new project”, direct to TC discussion for next step.
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>User story tracking<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.55in;text-indent:-.3in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>User-story-owner monitor the progress (this may cross multiple releases)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.55in;text-indent:-.3in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>All related blueprint/spec are tracked by the User Story Tracker<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>User story is “done” when all blueprint/spec are merged.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">With reference to previous email:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>User Story defined: This is covered in current workflow “1 Proposed User Story”<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>User Story prepared: This is covered in current workflow “2 Gap analysis – 2.1 to 2.4”<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>User Story ready: This is covered in current workflow “2 Gap analysis – 2.5 to 2.7”<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">4.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>User Story implemented: This is covered in current workflow “3 User story tracking”.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><a name="_____replyseparator"></a>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Arkady.Kanevsky@dell.com [mailto:Arkady.Kanevsky@dell.com] <br>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 1:20 PM<br>
To: Barrett, Carol L <carol.l.barrett@intel.com>; PChadwick@suse.com; product-wg@lists.openstack.org; user-committee@lists.openstack.org<br>
Subject: Re: [Product] Definition of Done discussion from 11/14 Team Meeting<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Carol,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Implementation been accepted means that all specs and blueprints that we created for a user story have been approved by projects and appear on their list.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Agree with the rest. The amount of time and effort it will take to create new project is much much more than create and drive specs and blueprints for existing projects.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Arkady<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">From: Barrett, Carol L [<a href="mailto:carol.l.barrett@intel.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:carol.l.barrett@intel.com</span></a>]
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 3:01 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">To: Kanevsky, Arkady <<a href="mailto:Arkady_Kanevsky@DELL.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Arkady_Kanevsky@DELL.com</span></a>>;
<a href="mailto:PChadwick@suse.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">PChadwick@suse.com</span></a>;
<a href="mailto:product-wg@lists.openstack.org"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">product-wg@lists.openstack.org</span></a>;
<a href="mailto:user-committee@lists.openstack.org"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">user-committee@lists.openstack.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Subject: RE: Definition of Done discussion from 11/14 Team Meeting<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Arkady - What is the action that demonstrates the Implementation plan has been accepted?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">I think for a User Story to move through the stages will take multiple releases - regardless on how we split it up.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">The TC has jurisdiction over new projects.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Carol<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">From: <a href="mailto:Arkady.Kanevsky@dell.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Arkady.Kanevsky@dell.com</span></a> [<a href="mailto:Arkady.Kanevsky@dell.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:Arkady.Kanevsky@dell.com</span></a>]
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 9:29 AM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">To: <a href="mailto:PChadwick@suse.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">PChadwick@suse.com</span></a>;
<a href="mailto:product-wg@lists.openstack.org"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">product-wg@lists.openstack.org</span></a>;
<a href="mailto:user-committee@lists.openstack.org"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">user-committee@lists.openstack.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Subject: Re: [Product] Definition of Done discussion from 11/14 Team Meeting<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Suggest we split middle one into two:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">2. User Story Prepared - Implementation plan has been established, gap<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> analysis performed and accepted; all projects impacted notified/created<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> 3. User Story Ready - Implementation plan has been accepted, projects/specs/blueprints created and json file updated.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Two reasons. One, if we need to create a new project we need to bring it to the board.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">That will take more than one release.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Two, it may take several releases before projects accept specs and blueprints.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Thus, we are in the state where user story is defined but not ready for lengthy period of time.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Arkady<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">From: Peter Chadwick [<a href="mailto:PChadwick@suse.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:PChadwick@suse.com</span></a>]
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 4:11 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">To: <a href="mailto:product-wg@lists.openstack.org"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">product-wg@lists.openstack.org</span></a>;
<a href="mailto:user-committee@lists.openstack.org"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">user-committee@lists.openstack.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Subject: [Product] Definition of Done discussion from 11/14 Team Meeting<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Team - During today's meeting as a follow on to Barcelona, we entered into a (suprisingly) lively discussion around establishing a "definition of done" for user stories. Among the issues that were raised was whether the PWG considers
a user story done when we provide it to the development teams or when the required deliverables are in the product.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">The current consensus is that there are three stages that we need to<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">follow:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> 1. User Story Defined - The user story is Complete & Merged into Repo,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> json file created, sent notice of the user story to other WGs and<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> merged their comments<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> 2. User Story Ready - Implementation plan has been established, gap<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> analysis performed, specs/blueprints created and json file updated<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> 3. User Story Implemented - Code is released that enables someone to<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> achieve the user story<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Pete<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Pete Chadwick<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Director of Product Management<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Cloud and Systems Management<o:p></o:p></p>
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