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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">So when ca we submit this to the User Committee ?... I think with have the critical mass :)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Tobias Rydberg <<a href="mailto:tobias@citynetwork.se" target="_blank">tobias@citynetwork.se</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 5:55 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:user-committee@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">user-committee@lists.<wbr>openstack.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:user-committee@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">user-committee@lists.<wbr>openstack.org</a>><span class=""><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [User-committee] Public Cloud Working Group<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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I think this is a great suggestion from Sean, and I agree with the words from Curtis as well.
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I work at a public cloud company and during our years with OpenStack we have seen a lot of things not suited for a public cloud. As Sean mentions, public cloud providers do their own fixes to get around this, and it would be much better with a joined force
contributing this back to the community in a structured way.<br>
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Tobias<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Den 2016-10-31 kl. 16:49, skrev Curtis:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<pre>On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 3:02 AM, Sean Handley<u></u><u></u></pre>
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<pre>I’d like to propose a working group for public cloud operators to help<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>deliver features across projects that support the needs of OpenStack public<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>cloud operators:<u></u><u></u></pre>
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<pre><a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PublicCloudWorkingGroup" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstack.org/<wbr>wiki/PublicCloudWorkingGroup</a><u></u><u></u></pre>
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<pre>I no longer work at a public cloud, but if I was I would think this<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>group to be very important.<u></u><u></u></pre>
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<pre>I think there is a class of what I would call regional public clouds,<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>all around the world the world, and I think these are important<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>organizations worth supporting as much as possible. Speaking as<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>someone who used to work at one, it is invaluable to have peers to<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>discuss similar issues with. I would be very surprised if any of these<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>regional clouds feel as through they are fully staffed, and in fact<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>are often quite small. The ability to band together to solve common<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>problems and implement common solutions is extremely powerful, and I<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>think exactly what a working group would do.<u></u><u></u></pre>
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<pre>Further, I do believe there is enough difference in the requirements<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>of a public cloud versus a private one to ensure that this working<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>group will have sufficient work. Private clouds can often (not always,<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>but often) solve problems by telling their users not to do something,<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>"it's against company policy", or even not supporting the feature,<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>whereas that is harder in a public cloud. Even the simple difference<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>of the fact that their APIs are available on the Internet is a<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>considerable change from a typical, IMHO, private cloud. Those are<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>just a couple examples. Certainly some would disagree with me, but I<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>feel there is fairly substantial difference between running a private<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>cloud and a public one.<u></u><u></u></pre>
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<pre>My $0.02,<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>Curtis.<u></u><u></u></pre>
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<pre>Sean Handley.<u></u><u></u></pre>
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