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<div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">As promised here’s the draft I propose we vote on next meeting:</div>
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<div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b>“Cloud applications in the perspective of the App Ecosystem Working Group include applications built using OpenStack SDK’s or API’s; or deployed atop OpenStack using Heat, Murano, or 3rd party
deployment/management tools; or an application running within containers, or PaaS solution atop OpenStack.”</b></div>
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<div>Craig and I collaborated on the etherpad I shared last meeting to get to this suggestion. Here’s it is again: <a href="https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/App_Ecosystem_Workgroup-App_Definition">https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/App_Ecosystem_Workgroup-App_Definition</a> </div>
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<div>:D</div>
<div>Patricia</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Patricia Montenegro <<a href="mailto:patricia.montenegro@intel.com">patricia.montenegro@intel.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 2:13 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>David F Flanders <<a href="mailto:dff.openstack@gmail.com">dff.openstack@gmail.com</a>>, user-committee <<a href="mailto:user-committee@lists.openstack.org">user-committee@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [User-committee] [app] What is an App?<br>
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<div><span style="text-indent: -66.92578125px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><font face="LucidaGrande"><span style="font-size: 12px;">Thanks Flanders for the summary!</span></font></span></div>
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<div><span style="text-indent: -66.92578125px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><font face="LucidaGrande"><span style="font-size: 12px;">Everyone, we’re </span></font></span><span style="font-family: LucidaGrande; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-indent: -66.92578125px;">closing
this discussion next week before our meeting, drafting a final, and submitting that for approval. So if you want to chime in, please do so before Monday (July 11th)</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family: LucidaGrande; font-size: 12px; text-indent: -66.92578125px; background-color: rgb(255, 254, 254);">:D</span></div>
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<div style="text-indent: -66.92578125px; ">Everyo<span style="font-family: LucidaGrande; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">e'</span></div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>David F Flanders <<a href="mailto:dff.openstack@gmail.com">dff.openstack@gmail.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 1:00 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>user-committee <<a href="mailto:user-committee@lists.openstack.org">user-committee@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">+1 for a worthwhile discussion.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Accordingly, here are some "bullet points" from the discussion thus far, which I would hope to receive some further clarification if not summarised to your liking:</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">i.) An OpenStack cloud application is functionality deployed via: a.) an SDK/API, b.) atop instances (VMs, Containers), c.) through an application platform (i.e. PaaS, HPC, etc)</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">ii.) From an "end user perspective" a cloud "app" should be installed via "one click"; alternatively "cloud sofware" will require some installation processes.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">iii.) There are three broad categories of application being built for OpenStack: a.) [Cloud Hosted] Apps built atop SDKs/APIs, b.) [Cloud Optimised + Cloud Native] Apps built atop OpenStack (not
necessarily aware of infrastructure it is using), c.) [Cloud App Components] app-software which are components for AppDev+DevOpps+SysAdmin.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">iv.) There should be further consideration by the user-committee to support application developers who do not want to know about the infrastructure atop which they are deploying their application.
Especially for the purpose of collecting use cases from these application developers.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">v.) Usability is a problem. Container communities (because they are made up of application developers) are scratching these issues. What can we learn from them?</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">As a bit-o-fun see a quick word count of keywords from the emaisl thus far (including re-quoted) lines:</div>
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