<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,68,68)"><div class="gmail_default">Excellent discussion + votes, thank you Tim, Jonathan, Stig an Stefano.</div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default">SCIENTIFIC-WG seems very reasonable to me.</div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default">Are there any objections?</div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default">Going once...</div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default">/dff</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 3:35 AM, Tim Bell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Tim.Bell@cern.ch" target="_blank">Tim.Bell@cern.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I also would not have any objection to SCIENTIFIC if this is the consensus (but I'd drop a note to Fermilab to explain the context, i.e. it is not an OpenStack on Scientific Linux distro).<br>
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The other benefit of SCIENTIFIC is that there are a number of companies doing clouds (such as in Life Sciences) who would be interested in the working group but would not consider themselves ACADEMIA.<br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Jonathan D. Proulx [mailto:<a href="mailto:jon@csail.mit.edu">jon@csail.mit.edu</a>]<br>
> Sent: 06 January 2016 17:24<br>
> To: Stig Telfer <<a href="mailto:stig.openstack@telfer.org">stig.openstack@telfer.org</a>><br>
> Cc: <a href="mailto:user-committee@lists.openstack.org">user-committee@lists.openstack.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [User-committee] [app] Training day (1st AppKit) actions from<br>
> Tokyo<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Jan 06, 2016 at 02:37:47PM +0000, Stig Telfer wrote:<br>
><br>
> :I agree with Tim on the extra ‘OPENSTACK’ in the name, so my vote would<br>
> go for ‘SCIENTIFIC-WG’. One reason I prefer this over option A is that I’d like<br>
> this project to embrace industrial R&D as well as academia.<br>
><br>
> Yes the 'OpenStack' is definitely redundant & I agree with Stig that 'Academia'<br>
> is limiting in ways we probably don't want.<br>
><br>
> I'd choose RESEARCH-WG as "research computing" is what that function is<br>
> called around my world but I don't have any opposition to SCIENTIFIC-WG if<br>
> that's the consensus choice.<br>
><br>
> -Jon<br>
><br>
> :<br>
> :So my vote’s for SCIENTIFIC-WG.<br>
> :<br>
> :Many thanks,<br>
> :Stig<br>
> :<br>
> :<br>
> :> On 6 Jan 2016, at 12:51, Tim Bell <<a href="mailto:Tim.Bell@cern.ch">Tim.Bell@cern.ch</a>> wrote:<br>
> :><br>
> :> David,<br>
> :><br>
> :> How do we vote ? With an e-mail ?<br>
> :><br>
> :> (While I would not want to put people off B., it could cause confusion with<br>
> Scientific Linux) :> :> I’d thus vote for A (as I think we could try to avoid<br>
> OPENSTACK in the title and it is similar to ‘Telco’ as an industry focused WG)<br>
> :> :> Tim :> :> From: David F Flanders [mailto:<a href="mailto:dff.openstack@gmail.com">dff.openstack@gmail.com</a>] :><br>
> Sent: 06 January 2016 13:23 :> To: <a href="mailto:user-committee@lists.openstack.org">user-committee@lists.openstack.org</a><br>
> :> Cc: Stig Telfer <<a href="mailto:stig@telfer.org">stig@telfer.org</a>><br>
> :> Subject: Re: [User-committee] [app] Training day (1st AppKit) actions from<br>
> Tokyo :> :> Happy New Year One and All, :> :> With renewed vigour, I'd like<br>
> to submit the following application-template on behalf of Stig, John & Paul<br>
> [1] for a newly formed working group:<br>
> :><br>
> :> <a href="https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/academia-wg" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/academia-wg</a><br>
> :><br>
> :> Prior to officially minting the WG (on the<br>
> Governanace/Foundation/UserCommittee page), we do require a vote from<br>
> you our esteemed user-committee members.<br>
> :><br>
> :> VOTE: What shall we call this new WG?!<br>
> :><br>
> :> Options:<br>
> :><br>
> :> A.) ACADEMIA-WG<br>
> :> B.) SCIENTIFIC-OPENSTACK-WG<br>
> :> C.) OPENSTACK4RESEARCH-WG<br>
> :> D.) Some other combination or wording therein?!<br>
> :><br>
> :> It is worth noting that this WG will amalgamate help to promote the<br>
> HPC/HTC Working Group, ideally meeting together and/or proximally.<br>
> :><br>
> :> Other key topics which this WG will look to address (esp re discussion in<br>
> Austin):<br>
> :><br>
> :> * HPC Infrastructure, i.e. enabling researchers to have "on tap" compute<br>
> resources for research experiments in parallel, simulation and high<br>
> throughput jobs.<br>
> :> * Application infrastructure, i.e. ease of working collaborative with fellow<br>
> researchers, scientists and lab colleagues, such as conducting cloud native<br>
> data analysis experiments (via RStudio, iPython, Matlab, etc.)<br>
> :> * Social infrastructure, i.e. communities emerging in academia which are<br>
> promoting use of cloud computing for collaborative research and science,<br>
> such as #swcarpentry #ResBaz #ClimbAcUk etc.<br>
> :> * Data infrastructure, i.e. large data science experiments and their<br>
> usability via cloud applications such as data from DNA sequencers,<br>
> MRIs/CT/XRay, Defraction, -Omics, etc.<br>
> :> * Last but not least, promoting the amazing things which Academia is<br>
> doing with OpenStack... about time a University got a SuperUser award, no?!<br>
> :><br>
> :> [1]= Many thanks to John, Paul and Stif for the guidance and advice, along<br>
> with all the other nominated members of this WG.<br>
> :><br>
> :> Go on, one little letter is all it takes to vote 🔤<br>
> :><br>
> :> Warm Regards from Australia,<br>
> :><br>
> :> Flanders<br>
> :><br>
> :> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 1:24 AM, Stig Telfer <<a href="mailto:stig@telfer.org">stig@telfer.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> :> Hello Adam -<br>
> :><br>
> :> Thanks for your interest, that is tremendous. At this stage the working<br>
> group is taking shape, please by all means do add your name to the etherpad<br>
> - and your input.<br>
> :><br>
> :> Best wishes,<br>
> :> Stig<br>
> :><br>
> :><br>
> :> On 25 Nov 2015, at 11:32, Adam Huffman <<a href="mailto:adam.huffman@gmail.com">adam.huffman@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
> :><br>
> :> Hello<br>
> :><br>
> :> Not wishing to hijack the thread, but I'm very interested in participating in<br>
> the academia working group.<br>
> :><br>
> :> May I just add myself to the list on the Etherpad, or do I need to ask to be<br>
> nominated? I do know a couple of the people on there already...<br>
> :><br>
> :> Cheers,<br>
> :> Adam<br>
> :><br>
> :><br>
> :> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:14 AM, David F Flanders<br>
> <<a href="mailto:dff.openstack@gmail.com">dff.openstack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> :> Brilliant to hear Matjaz!<br>
> :><br>
> :> I've added your name to the proposed OpenStack in Academia Working<br>
> Group at the below etherpad, if you could please have a look over it and add<br>
> your comments directly:<br>
> :><br>
> :> <a href="https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/academia-wg" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/academia-wg</a><br>
> :><br>
> :> Stig (Cc'd) and myself have been trying to announce far and wide to all<br>
> interested academic institutions, please do help us spread the word :D :> :><br>
> I'm also very interested to hear about what training you have started in on, it<br>
> would be great to compare as we have created a training for researchers<br>
> (aka PhDs and Postgraduates) on how to use our OpenStack as their research<br>
> operating system of choice:<br>
> :><br>
> :> <a href="https://github.com/resbaz/nectar-cloud-lessons" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/resbaz/nectar-cloud-lessons</a><br>
> :><br>
> :> Naturally, the first app guide is also something we are keen to promote...<br>
> :><br>
> :> So much to do!<br>
> :><br>
> :> Kind Regards,<br>
> :><br>
> :> David F. Flanders <<a href="mailto:david.flanders@unimelb.edu.au">david.flanders@unimelb.edu.au</a>> :> Research<br>
> Community Manager, Digital Infrastructure Services :> University of<br>
> Melbourne. @DFFlanders :> :> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Pančur,<br>
> Matjaž <<a href="mailto:Matjaz.Pancur@fri.uni-lj.si">Matjaz.Pancur@fri.uni-lj.si</a>> wrote:<br>
> :> Hi all,<br>
> :><br>
> :> I’m the lead of the Docs Training guides Speciality team [1]. We already<br>
> update the material for Upstream Training (slides that are used there and<br>
> intro pages that explain them a bit more) [2] and we’re also working on the<br>
> Training slides material (currently a WIP published under draft docs pages).<br>
> Everything is written in RST (slides too - we use Hieroglyph+Sphinx) and<br>
> we’re continuously publishing all training material under Training guides<br>
> section on the Docs pages [3], with standard Docs contribution process with<br>
> patches&bugs for slides too.<br>
> :><br>
> :> This effort you guys started here for the 1stAppKit Training is really great, I<br>
> too have a lot of feedback about the need for this from my contacts in the<br>
> Academia and from our partners in the industry.<br>
> :><br>
> :> I would like to help with developing training materials for it. Can we reuse<br>
> the tools/processes already established for the Upstream training? I think<br>
> that it would be good to gather together all community made training related<br>
> stuff under the same Docs Section [3] - this would increase the visibility of it<br>
> for all.<br>
> :><br>
> :> Matjaz Pancur<br>
> :> University Of Ljubljana<br>
> :><br>
> :><br>
> :> [1] <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/SpecialityTeams" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/SpecialityTeams</a><br>
> :> [2] <a href="http://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/</a><br>
> :> [3] <a href="http://docs.openstack.org/#training-guides" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://docs.openstack.org/#training-guides</a><br>
> :><br>
> :><br>
> :> > From: David F Flanders<br>
> :> > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 6:13 AM :> > To:<br>
> :> > user-committee at <a href="http://lists.openstack.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lists.openstack.org</a> :> > :> > Cc: Anni Lai ; John ;<br>
> Stefano Maffulli ; Rainya Mosher (ramosher) ; 张淳 ; :> > kenny.johnston at<br>
> <a href="http://rackspace.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">rackspace.com</a> :> > :> > Subject: [User-committee] [app] Training day (1st<br>
> AppKit) actions from Tokyo :> > :> > :> > My Dear Fellow Application<br>
> Ecosystem Working Group, :> > :> > I hope your return travels home have<br>
> treated you well.<br>
> :> ><br>
> :> > As per my action from our WG meeting in Tokyo[1], I'm emailing you'll to<br>
> request some info to help roll out the 'My First App Guide + Training"? ! :> ><br>
> :> > If the following people would be so kind as to provide me with the<br>
> following information:<br>
> :> > a.) contact details for the developer wranglers who help provide<br>
> internal training events/activities at your companies, random leads welcome,<br>
> :> > b.) name of an app developer who has or is interested in developing<br>
> cloud native applications,<br>
> :> > c.) [optional] where we might help advertise the "my first app guide"<br>
> and training day(s)?,<br>
> :> > d.) [optional] opinions on what we need to do with<br>
> developer.openstack.orgto make it valuable for visiting app developers?<br>
> :> ><br>
> :> > a.. @Michael/Carol could you provide the above (a)(b), optionally (c)(d)<br>
> for Intel?<br>
> :> > b.. @John could you provide the above (a)(b), optionally (c)(d) for HP?<br>
> :> > c.. @Kenny could you provide the above (a)(b), optionally (c)(d) for<br>
> Rackspace?<br>
> :> > d.. @Shamail could you provide the above (a)(b), optionally (c)(d) for<br>
> IBM?<br>
> :> > e.. @Rainya/Nicky could you provide the above (a)(b), optionally (c)(d)<br>
> for Cisco?<br>
> :> > f.. @Annie could you provide the above (a)(b), optionally (c)(d) for<br>
> Huawei?<br>
> :> > g.. @Chun could you provide the above (a)(b), optionally (c)(d) for 99<br>
> Cloud?<br>
> :> > h.. @Stefano could you provide the above (a)(b), optionally (c)(d) for<br>
> Dreamhost?<br>
> :> > ...<br>
> :> ><br>
> :> > @All I would really also appreciate your ideas for what your organisation<br>
> might expect in terms of an "app kit" for training days, e.g. training curricula<br>
> outline, training support, partnership with local meetup & user groups,<br>
> engagement opportunities with up and coming talent from Universities, swag<br>
> (stickers, shirts), prizes for "best app pitches", etc. ??? :> > :> > Once<br>
> compiled, I'll l liaise with you all to help take forward training opportunities<br>
> of the my first app guide training #AppKit. If interested in being a guinea pig<br>
> please do reply on list :) :> > :> > Getting very excited to see cloud native apps<br>
> grow in our community!<br>
> :> ><br>
> :> ><br>
> :> > [1]=<br>
> :> > <a href="https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TYO-app-eco-wg" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TYO-app-eco-wg</a><br>
> :> ><br>
> :> ><br>
> :> > Kind Regards,<br>
> :> ><br>
> :> > Flanders<br>
> :> > ======<br>
> :> > David F. Flanders, Research Community Manager :> > University of<br>
> Melbourne > University Services > Research Platforms :> > @ResPlat - :> ><br>
> <a href="http://blogs.unimelb.edu.au/researchplatforms/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://blogs.unimelb.edu.au/researchplatforms/</a><br>
> :> ><br>
> :> > We ❤ the 'Research Bazaar' community, join today! #ResBaz :> > :> > :> ><br>
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