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Thank you John, and is Paul in agreement as well?
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 8:17 PM, John Taylor
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No objections and apologies for the delay in responding as I waited for the User-committee@ to sync to my gmail.
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Excellent discussion + votes, thank you Tim, Jonathan, Stig an Stefano.
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SCIENTIFIC-WG seems very reasonable to me.
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Are there any objections?
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I also would not have any objection to SCIENTIFIC if this is the consensus (but I'd drop a note to Fermilab to explain the context, i.e. it is not an OpenStack on Scientific Linux distro).
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<br> > -----Original Message-----
<br> > From: Jonathan D. Proulx [mailto:
<a href="mailto:jon@csail.mit.edu" target="_blank">jon@csail.mit.edu</a>]
<br> > Sent: 06 January 2016 17:24
<br> > To: Stig Telfer <
<a href="mailto:stig.openstack@telfer.org" target="_blank">stig.openstack@telfer.org</a>>
<br> > Cc:
<a href="mailto:user-committee@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">user-committee@lists.openstack.org</a>
<br> > Subject: Re: [User-committee] [app] Training day (1st AppKit) actions from
<br> > Tokyo
<br> >
<br> > On Wed, Jan 06, 2016 at 02:37:47PM +0000, Stig Telfer wrote:
<br> >
<br> > :I agree with Tim on the extra ‘OPENSTACK’ in the name, so my vote would
<br> > go for ‘SCIENTIFIC-WG’. One reason I prefer this over option A is that I’d like
<br> > this project to embrace industrial R&D as well as academia.
<br> >
<br> > Yes the 'OpenStack' is definitely redundant & I agree with Stig that 'Academia'
<br> > is limiting in ways we probably don't want.
<br> >
<br> > I'd choose RESEARCH-WG as "research computing" is what that function is
<br> > called around my world but I don't have any opposition to SCIENTIFIC-WG if
<br> > that's the consensus choice.
<br> >
<br> > -Jon
<br> >
<br> > :
<br> > :So my vote’s for SCIENTIFIC-WG.
<br> > :
<br> > :Many thanks,
<br> > :Stig
<br> > :
<br> > :
<br> > :> On 6 Jan 2016, at 12:51, Tim Bell <
<a href="mailto:Tim.Bell@cern.ch" target="_blank">Tim.Bell@cern.ch</a>> wrote:
<br> > :>
<br> > :> David,
<br> > :>
<br> > :> How do we vote ? With an e-mail ?
<br> > :>
<br> > :> (While I would not want to put people off B., it could cause confusion with
<br> > Scientific Linux) :> :> I’d thus vote for A (as I think we could try to avoid
<br> > OPENSTACK in the title and it is similar to ‘Telco’ as an industry focused WG)
<br> > :> :> Tim :> :> From: David F Flanders [mailto:
<a href="mailto:dff.openstack@gmail.com" target="_blank">dff.openstack@gmail.com</a>] :>
<br> > Sent: 06 January 2016 13:23 :> To:
<a href="mailto:user-committee@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">user-committee@lists.openstack.org</a>
<br> > :> Cc: Stig Telfer <
<a href="mailto:stig@telfer.org" target="_blank">stig@telfer.org</a>>
<br> > :> Subject: Re: [User-committee] [app] Training day (1st AppKit) actions from
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</div> > Tokyo :> :> Happy New Year One and All, :> :> With renewed vigour, I'd like
<span><br> > to submit the following application-template on behalf of Stig, John & Paul<br> > [1] for a newly formed working group:<br> > :><br> > :> <a href="https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/academia-wg" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/academia-wg</a><br></span>
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> :>
<br> > :> Prior to officially minting the WG (on the
<br> > Governanace/Foundation/UserCommittee page), we do require a vote from
<br> > you our esteemed user-committee members.
<br> > :>
<br> > :> VOTE: What shall we call this new WG?!
<br> > :>
<br> > :> Options:
<br> > :>
<br> > :> A.) ACADEMIA-WG
<br> > :> B.) SCIENTIFIC-OPENSTACK-WG
<br> > :> C.) OPENSTACK4RESEARCH-WG
<br> > :> D.) Some other combination or wording therein?!
<br> > :>
<br> > :> It is worth noting that this WG will amalgamate help to promote the
<br> > HPC/HTC Working Group, ideally meeting together and/or proximally.
<br> > :>
<br> > :> Other key topics which this WG will look to address (esp re discussion in
<br> > Austin):
<br> > :>
<br> > :> * HPC Infrastructure, i.e. enabling researchers to have "on tap" compute
<br> > resources for research experiments in parallel, simulation and high
<br> > throughput jobs.
<br> > :> * Application infrastructure, i.e. ease of working collaborative with fellow
<br> > researchers, scientists and lab colleagues, such as conducting cloud native
<br> > data analysis experiments (via RStudio, iPython, Matlab, etc.)
<br> > :> * Social infrastructure, i.e. communities emerging in academia which are
<br> > promoting use of cloud computing for collaborative research and science,
<br> > such as #swcarpentry #ResBaz #ClimbAcUk etc.
<br> > :> * Data infrastructure, i.e. large data science experiments and their
<br> > usability via cloud applications such as data from DNA sequencers,
<br> > MRIs/CT/XRay, Defraction, -Omics, etc.
<br> > :> * Last but not least, promoting the amazing things which Academia is
<br> > doing with OpenStack... about time a University got a SuperUser award, no?!
<br> > :>
<br> > :> [1]= Many thanks to John, Paul and Stif for the guidance and advice, along
<br> > with all the other nominated members of this WG.
<br> > :>
<br> > :> Go on, one little letter is all it takes to vote 🔤
<br> > :>
<br> > :> Warm Regards from Australia,
<br> > :>
<br> > :> Flanders
<br> > :>
<br> > :> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 1:24 AM, Stig Telfer <
<a href="mailto:stig@telfer.org" target="_blank">stig@telfer.org</a>> wrote:
<br> > :> Hello Adam -
<br> > :>
<br> > :> Thanks for your interest, that is tremendous. At this stage the working
<br> > group is taking shape, please by all means do add your name to the etherpad
<br> > - and your input.
<br> > :>
<br> > :> Best wishes,
<br> > :> Stig
<br> > :>
<br> > :>
<br> > :> On 25 Nov 2015, at 11:32, Adam Huffman <
<a href="mailto:adam.huffman@gmail.com" target="_blank">adam.huffman@gmail.com</a>>
<br> > wrote:
<br> > :>
<br> > :> Hello
<br> > :>
<br> > :> Not wishing to hijack the thread, but I'm very interested in participating in
<br> > the academia working group.
<br> > :>
<br> > :> May I just add myself to the list on the Etherpad, or do I need to ask to be
<br> > nominated? I do know a couple of the people on there already...
<br> > :>
<br> > :> Cheers,
<br> > :> Adam
<br> > :>
<br> > :>
<br> > :> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:14 AM, David F Flanders
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<a href="mailto:dff.openstack@gmail.com" target="_blank">dff.openstack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
<br> > :> Brilliant to hear Matjaz!
<br> > :>
<br> > :> I've added your name to the proposed OpenStack in Academia Working
<br> > Group at the below etherpad, if you could please have a look over it and add
<br> > your comments directly:
<br> > :>
<br> > :>
<a href="https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/academia-wg" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/academia-wg</a>
<br> > :>
<br> > :> Stig (Cc'd) and myself have been trying to announce far and wide to all
<br> > interested academic institutions, please do help us spread the word :D :> :>
<br> > I'm also very interested to hear about what training you have started in on, it
<br> > would be great to compare as we have created a training for researchers
<br> > (aka PhDs and Postgraduates) on how to use our OpenStack as their research
<br> > operating system of choice:
<br> > :>
<br> > :>
<a href="https://github.com/resbaz/nectar-cloud-lessons" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/resbaz/nectar-cloud-lessons</a>
<br> > :>
<br> > :> Naturally, the first app guide is also something we are keen to promote...
<br> > :>
<br> > :> So much to do!
<br> > :>
<br> > :> Kind Regards,
<br> > :>
<br> > :> David F. Flanders <
<a href="mailto:david.flanders@unimelb.edu.au" target="_blank">david.flanders@unimelb.edu.au</a>> :> Research
<br> > Community Manager, Digital Infrastructure Services :> University of
<br> > Melbourne. @DFFlanders :> :> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Pančur,
<br> > Matjaž <
<a href="mailto:Matjaz.Pancur@fri.uni-lj.si" target="_blank">Matjaz.Pancur@fri.uni-lj.si</a>> wrote:
<br> > :> Hi all,
<br> > :>
<br> > :> I’m the lead of the Docs Training guides Speciality team [1]. We already
<br> > update the material for Upstream Training (slides that are used there and
<br> > intro pages that explain them a bit more) [2] and we’re also working on the
<br> > Training slides material (currently a WIP published under draft docs pages).
<br> > Everything is written in RST (slides too - we use Hieroglyph+Sphinx) and
<br> > we’re continuously publishing all training material under Training guides
<br> > section on the Docs pages [3], with standard Docs contribution process with
<br> > patches&bugs for slides too.
<br> > :>
<br> > :> This effort you guys started here for the 1stAppKit Training is really great, I
<br> > too have a lot of feedback about the need for this from my contacts in the
<br> > Academia and from our partners in the industry.
<br> > :>
<br> > :> I would like to help with developing training materials for it. Can we reuse
<br> > the tools/processes already established for the Upstream training? I think
<br> > that it would be good to gather together all community made training related
<br> > stuff under the same Docs Section [3] - this would increase the visibility of it
<br> > for all.
<br> > :>
<br> > :> Matjaz Pancur
<br> > :> University Of Ljubljana
<br> > :>
<br> > :>
<br> > :> [1]
<a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/SpecialityTeams" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/SpecialityTeams</a>
<br> > :> [2]
<a href="http://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/</a>
<br> > :> [3]
<a href="http://docs.openstack.org/#training-guides" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://docs.openstack.org/#training-guides</a>
<br> > :>
<br> > :>
<br> > :> > From: David F Flanders
<br> > :> > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 6:13 AM :> > To:
<br> > :> > user-committee at
<a href="http://lists.openstack.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lists.openstack.org</a> :> > :> > Cc: Anni Lai ; John ;
<br> > Stefano Maffulli ; Rainya Mosher (ramosher) ; 张淳 ; :> > kenny.johnston at
<br> >
<a href="http://rackspace.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">rackspace.com</a> :> > :> > Subject: [User-committee] [app] Training day (1st
<br> > AppKit) actions from Tokyo :> > :> > :> > My Dear Fellow Application
<br> > Ecosystem Working Group, :> > :> > I hope your return travels home have
<br> > treated you well.
<br> > :> >
<br> > :> > As per my action from our WG meeting in Tokyo[1], I'm emailing you'll to
<br> > request some info to help roll out the 'My First App Guide + Training"? ! :> >
<br> > :> > If the following people would be so kind as to provide me with the
<br> > following information:
<br> > :> > a.) contact details for the developer wranglers who help provide
<br> > internal training events/activities at your companies, random leads welcome,
<br> > :> > b.) name of an app developer who has or is interested in developing
<br> > cloud native applications,
<br> > :> > c.) [optional] where we might help advertise the "my first app guide"
<br> > and training day(s)?,
<br> > :> > d.) [optional] opinions on what we need to do with
<br> > developer.openstack.orgto make it valuable for visiting app developers?
<br> > :> >
<br> > :> > a.. @Michael/Carol could you provide the above (a)(b), optionally (c)(d)
<br> > for Intel?
<br> > :> > b.. @John could you provide the above (a)(b), optionally (c)(d) for HP?
<br> > :> > c.. @Kenny could you provide the above (a)(b), optionally (c)(d) for
<br> > Rackspace?
<br> > :> > d.. @Shamail could you provide the above (a)(b), optionally (c)(d) for
<br> > IBM?
<br> > :> > e.. @Rainya/Nicky could you provide the above (a)(b), optionally (c)(d)
<br> > for Cisco?
<br> > :> > f.. @Annie could you provide the above (a)(b), optionally (c)(d) for
<br> > Huawei?
<br> > :> > g.. @Chun could you provide the above (a)(b), optionally (c)(d) for 99
<br> > Cloud?
<br> > :> > h.. @Stefano could you provide the above (a)(b), optionally (c)(d) for
<br> > Dreamhost?
<br> > :> > ...
<br> > :> >
<br> > :> > @All I would really also appreciate your ideas for what your organisation
<br> > might expect in terms of an "app kit" for training days, e.g. training curricula
<br> > outline, training support, partnership with local meetup & user groups,
<br> > engagement opportunities with up and coming talent from Universities, swag
<br> > (stickers, shirts), prizes for "best app pitches", etc. ??? :> > :> > Once
<br> > compiled, I'll l liaise with you all to help take forward training opportunities
<br> > of the my first app guide training #AppKit. If interested in being a guinea pig
<br> > please do reply on list :) :> > :> > Getting very excited to see cloud native apps
<br> > grow in our community!
<br> > :> >
<br> > :> >
<br> > :> > [1]=
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<a href="https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TYO-app-eco-wg" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TYO-app-eco-wg</a>
<br> > :> >
<br> > :> >
<br> > :> > Kind Regards,
<br> > :> >
<br> > :> > Flanders
<br> > :> > ======
<br> > :> > David F. Flanders, Research Community Manager :> > University of
<br> > Melbourne > University Services > Research Platforms :> > @ResPlat - :> >
<br> >
<a href="http://blogs.unimelb.edu.au/researchplatforms/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://blogs.unimelb.edu.au/researchplatforms/</a>
<br> > :> >
<br> > :> > We ❤ the 'Research Bazaar' community, join today! #ResBaz :> > :> > :> >
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