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<div style="direction: ltr;font-family: Tahoma;color: #000000;font-size: 10pt;">If y'all could add a stream/conference call for those of us not going to the city of lights, it would be much appreciated. I would like to participate, even if at a distance.<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Everett Toews; Lauren Sell<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Nati Shalom; user-committee@lists.openstack.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [User-committee] OpenStack End User Working Group<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">I’m in total agreement. Tom and I are connecting to discuss an agenda for the next discussion on Skype tomorrow afternoon. Just sent you an invite.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">The plan is to develop a draft agenda for a session in Paris, and then schedule a call with the participants of the kickoff call to lock down the agenda.
We have also discussed setting up a weekly call leading up to Paris, which we can discuss tomorrow as well. We’ll continute to copy the user-committee list until we lock down a name/audience for the end-user/developer audience.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Everett Toews [mailto:everett.toews@RACKSPACE.COM]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 10, 2014 7:48 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lauren Sell<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Chris C. Kemp; Tom Fifield; Rainya Mosher; Nati Shalom; user-committee@lists.openstack.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [User-committee] OpenStack End User Working Group</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sep 10, 2014, at 2:23 AM, Lauren Sell <<a href="mailto:lauren@openstack.org" target="_blank">lauren@openstack.org</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">I’m wondering if it might make sense to move forward with team phone calls / mailing list emails, and wait to do a f2f in Paris since we’re only two months out. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Whatever happens, let’s move forward with team phone calls / mailing list emails. Practically speaking, let’s just continue to use the user-committee mailing list for the time being until we have a name we can give to the working group.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">One possible agenda suggestion: if we can get some app developers / end users in the room, it would be great to gather feedback on </span><a href="http://developer.openstack.org/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">developer.openstack.org</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> and
the type of content that would be useful to them as we build out this section going forward.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes. Let’s get as much of our audience in the room as possible. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The bulk of the effort of the initial release of <a href="http://developer.openstack.org" target="_blank">
developer.openstack.org</a> went into infra issues. I welcome the evolution of <a href="http://developer.openstack.org" target="_blank">developer.openstack.org</a> by the community. The primary exemplar in this area for open source is
<a href="http://developer.mozilla.org" target="_blank">developer.mozilla.org</a>. It’s amazing really. And they’re going toe to toe with Microsoft, Google, and Apple.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This would be ideal. If we could achieve the same level of success that the Operators working group has, that would be incredible.<span style="color:#1F497D"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Finally, we mentioned this on the first call, but the Foundation is posting a job opening for an app dev community manager, who I think could play an important supporting
many of these efforts. We’ll be promoting the new position next week, so please let us know if you have any recommendations from your networks.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hmmmmm…if any of you have the people responsible for <a href="http://developer.mozilla.org" target="_blank">developer.mozilla.org</a> in your networks, that might be a good place to start. ;)</p>
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