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<div>Oh that’s right! Thanks for the reminder, Anne. :D</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">Rainya Mosher</p>
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<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><i>I am an artist. This means I live in a perverse fantasy world with unrealistic expectations. Thank you for understanding.</i></span></div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Anne Gentle <<a href="mailto:anne@openstack.org">anne@openstack.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Friday, August 22, 2014 at 5:27 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Rainya Mosher <<a href="mailto:rainya.mosher@rackspace.com">rainya.mosher@rackspace.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>Ruben Orduz <<a href="mailto:ruben.orduz@RACKSPACE.COM">ruben.orduz@RACKSPACE.COM</a>>, "<a href="mailto:user-committee@lists.openstack.org">user-committee@lists.openstack.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:user-committee@lists.openstack.org">user-committee@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [User-committee] OpenStack End User Working Group<br>
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<div dir="ltr">No sads Rainya, you have <a href="http://superuser.openstack.org">
superuser.openstack.org</a> and an existing User Committee that has already done a ton of work around that particular OpenStack persona. :)
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<div>It's the next layer that the end-user effort is working on, and to me this next frontier exploration explains why definitions are crucial for focusing efforts. </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Rainya Mosher <span dir="ltr">
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Sadness, but I understand. Thanks for the clarification!<br>
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Hope is not a strategy, but it can help you get out of bed in the morning.<br>
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On 8/22/14, 4:55 PM, "Ruben Orduz" <<a href="mailto:ruben.orduz@RACKSPACE.COM">ruben.orduz@RACKSPACE.COM</a>> wrote:<br>
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>Hi Rainya,<br>
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>For the sake of this definition, I’d say yes, your group would be<br>
>considered operators and outside our target audience.<br>
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>Best,<br>
>Ruben<br>
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>On Aug 22, 2014, at 5:42 PM, Rainya Mosher <<a href="mailto:rainya.mosher@RACKSPACE.COM">rainya.mosher@RACKSPACE.COM</a>><br>
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>> I like that a definition is being created and thank you for not wanting<br>
>>to<br>
>> leave out the operators and deployers. As a deployer of an OpenStack<br>
>> cloud, how does the definition "An OpenStack end user is anyone who<br>
>> interacts with and makes use of an OpenStack cloud via its public APIs²<br>
>> apply to the end users that deploy the OpenStack software itself? I ask<br>
>> because when my team and I do a public cloud deploy, we don¹t actually<br>
>> interact with the public api for any openstack service. It is all done<br>
>> through orchestration and ssh at the instance and host level.<br>
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>> Is the idea that we would fall into the operator / maintainer category?<br>
>>Or<br>
>> is this function out of scope for this conversation? Cheers!<br>
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>> Rainya Mosher<br>
>> Dev Manager, PSST Release & Deploy<br>
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>> Strategic € Activator € Connectedness € Individualization €<br>
>>Communication<br>
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>> I am an artist. This means I live in a perverse fantasy world with<br>
>> unrealistic expectations. Thank you for understanding.<br>
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>> On 8/22/14, 3:31 PM, "Ruben Orduz" <<a href="mailto:ruben.orduz@RACKSPACE.COM">ruben.orduz@RACKSPACE.COM</a>> wrote:<br>
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>>> I like this definition quite a bit, but I¹d tweak it to just this:<br>
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>>> "An OpenStack end user is anyone who interacts with and makes use of an<br>
>>> OpenStack cloud via its public APIs²<br>
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>>> My 2c<br>
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>>> Best,<br>
>>> Ruben<br>
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>>> On Aug 22, 2014, at 4:11 PM, Everett Toews<br>
>>><<a href="mailto:everett.toews@RACKSPACE.COM">everett.toews@RACKSPACE.COM</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
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>>>> Here's a straw man definition for end user to stimulate discussion.<br>
>>>>The<br>
>>>> public API is a good point of delineation.<br>
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>>>> An OpenStack end user is anyone who interacts with an OpenStack cloud<br>
>>>> via its public APIs. That is, anyone who develops, deploys, or<br>
>>>>maintains<br>
>>>> software that uses an OpenStack cloud via any technology that<br>
>>>>interacts<br>
>>>> with its public APIs.<br>
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>>>> Thoughts here?<br>
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