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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7B7B7B">Does anyone have any proposals on how to engage users in addition to panels? For example, should we consider running usability studies during the "Operators
and Users" day? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7B7B7B">Piet Kruithof<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Adam Nelson [mailto:adam@varud.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 13, 2013 8:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Everett Toews<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Tristan Goode; <user-committee@lists.openstack.org>; <community@lists.openstack.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [openstack-community] Bringing focus to the Operators and Users at the next summit<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree with this suggestion.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">While development and design is obviously critical - a track dedicated to those managing existing clouds or installing them could really benefit from sharing their experiences in a dedicated way.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good idea.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Adam<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: <a href="http://kili.io" target="_blank">
kili.io</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Musings:<a href="https://twitter.com/varud" target="_blank"> twitter.com/varud</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">About Adam: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson" target="_blank">www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Everett Toews <<a href="mailto:everett.toews@rackspace.com" target="_blank">everett.toews@rackspace.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I really like your timing of it too. I can see this as a rallying point for operators and application developers. We can discuss what's important to us and our pain points and then encourage everyone to attend design sessions and give the ops
and app devs perspective. I attended a number of sessions at the last summit where the OpenStack developers were down right excited to have real users giving their feedback.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888">Everett<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Dec 12, 2013, at 8:30 PM, Tristan Goode wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Thought I'd post this here too (because of the noise in the general list)...</span><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">G'day OpenStackLand,</span><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Like we have the various project design summit session days at the summits, I think it'd be really useful to have an Operators and Users day at the very start
of the next summit (and hopefully all of them in future if it works out). So far at the last 4 summits I've attended, from the users and operators point of view we've had a rag tag bunch of disconnected panels and 40 minute sessions that really don't get anywhere
much and don’t make it to any sort of plan or worthwhile result. This proposed "Operators and Users" day will be run like the design summit session days where all of us that have to deal with the consequences of the software development of this project sit
in a room and work the issues. The goal is to present real world, evidence based Operator, User, and even other input like Sales and Marketing experiences back into the development teams. Maybe we might even have our own "Operators and Users" lounge too. :-P</span><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Cheers</span><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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