<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I believe that the OpenStack marketing community sees comparisons to other open source cloud frameworks as significant competitive positioning. Accuracy in that data would be valuable to the whole community.<div><br></div><div>I *know* that a number of OpenStack member companies use their "position" in terms of ATC contributions as a marketing point, and having an accurate baseline for those numbers might also be valuable. For example, DreamHost has suddenly become the most substantial contributor to Quantum *ever*. :)</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.stackalytics.com/engineers/markmcclain?metric=loc&period=havana&project_type=incubation">http://www.stackalytics.com/engineers/markmcclain?metric=loc&period=havana&project_type=incubation</a></div><div><br></div><div>As for myself, I often use the count of individual members, corporate members, and total committers in sales and marketing materials - and I've found a number of discrepancies in the user database that I find concerning (duplicate names, etc.). Solid, official data is valuable for everyone - and I think inviting these other projects to join the activity board effort, by making it an openstack project itself, could be a great way to get there. </div><div><br><div apple-content-edited="true">
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<br><div><div>On Jul 8, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Stefano Maffulli <<a href="mailto:stefano@openstack.org">stefano@openstack.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Hi Josh<br><br>On Mon 08 Jul 2013 07:42:20 PM CEST, Joshua McKenty wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Stefano, it seems like we're getting a proliferation of "stats and<br>analysis" efforts, including Mirantis's newly<br>launched <a href="http://www.stackalytics.com/">http://www.stackalytics.com/</a>. Would you be up for<br>spearheading a new OpenStack "program" to coordinate these various<br>efforts?<br></blockquote><br>Sure, I like to think that I'm already half-way there with the <br>Activity Board. <a href="Http://activity.openstack.org">Http://activity.openstack.org</a> is the program I run now <br>that wants to be the 'official' way to get useful stats and metrics. <br>"Useful" in this context is data and metrics that are needed to manage <br>the community and the development teams. We don't do comparisons with <br>other projects and we are adding more and more features, sources and <br>datapoints based on the feedback from project managers and users (see <br>the first release of data from gerrit on the dash <br><a href="http://activity.openstack.org/dash/browser/scr.html">http://activity.openstack.org/dash/browser/scr.html</a>). We are working <br>hard to make sure that the data is correct and meaningful for <br>day-to-day consumption, not just for quarterly reports and flashy <br>announcements.<br><br>There is also a topic for the openstack-dev mailing list with <br>interesting discussions coming from PTLs and project managers <br>(<a href="http://openstack.markmail.org/search/?q=subject%3A[metrics]+list%3Aorg.openstack.lists.openstack-dev">http://openstack.markmail.org/search/?q=subject%3A[metrics]+list%3Aorg.openstack.lists.openstack-dev</a> <br>to get an idea of what is discussed there).<br><br>I believe Mirantis started their effort before Activity Board was <br>available and stackalytics was born out of their internal need to track <br>lines of code (a metric that many in openstack-dev believe has less <br>priority than other data points currently missing in Activity Board).<br>Qingjye similarly had his own itch to scratch when he started doing the <br>comparison across different projects.<br><br>What problem you believe such multitude of reports not coming from the <br>Foundation is creating?<br><br>/stef<br><br>--<br>Ask and answer questions on <a href="https://ask.openstack.org">https://ask.openstack.org</a><br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>