Open Stack

On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Yih Leong, Sun. <yihleong at gmail.com> wrote:
> It is sad to hear this decision.
>
> Instead of wrapping up this group, would you consider merge this under
> Enterprise WG?
> There are work in Enterprise WG (such as ISV) that could have overlap with
> SaaS/PaaS and App Development?

At this point there's no "group" to merge.  We've satisfied the
majority of the efforts we had started, and any new efforts around
engaging PaaS groups would really be a chance in direction from where
we started.  (Not to mention this working group does not have many
"workers" left).

Going forward there's nothing stopping the Enterprise WG from deciding
you would want to take on managing relationships with PaaS vendors to
facilitate better cooperation between those folks and the OpenStack
community, if something like that is what makes the most sense.

This would be a good time for the User Committee to get involved here
and talk about the strategic implications around OpenStack
applications.  My understanding (partly based on this thread on the
dev list [1]) is that the foundation wants to foster better
relationships with ecosystems that already have lots of developers,
rather than appearing to compete with them by trying to build our own
niche ecosystem.

Having said all that, one of the reasons we chose to shut down our
specific working group is due to lack of participation.  Any ongoing
efforts are going to require wrangling some volunteers; this seems
like a good opportunity to re-brand the efforts and hopefully capture
the interest of some new folks.

[1]: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113362.html

-Christopher

>
> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 7:25 PM, Christopher Aedo <doc at aedo.net> wrote:
>>
>> Those of us still involved with the App Dev Enabling Working Group
>> have agreed it’s time to wrap up our efforts.  Last year we
>> experienced great participation from several different organizations
>> and were able to coordinate the Cloud Benchmark, First App guides,
>> along with the Guadalajara Hackathon. In Barcelona we came up with
>> some priority efforts[1] to pursue before the next summit in Boston
>> and we have delivered improvements in developer.openstack.org.
>>
>> This year however we have been talking about taking a more pragmatic
>> approach around finding application developers building things on top
>> of OpenStack clouds.  The hope is that if we work more closely with
>> the various platforms as a service that run beautifully on top of
>> OpenStack clouds, we can reach a wider audience and focus on enabling
>> them (and their respective PaaS’s).
>>
>> We feel this mission represents a significant departure from where
>> this began (as the AppDev Ecosystem WG).  We think it makes sense to
>> retire this working group and suggest a new one that can focus closely
>> on cooperating with the PaaS options and their already existing
>> ecosystem of application developers.
>>
>> [1]: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/app-eco-objectives
>>
>>
>> -Christopher
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> User-committee mailing list
>> User-committee at lists.openstack.org
>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/user-committee
>
>