[User-committee] [app] Cloud App Labs (lounge + training)

Petter Lund petter.lund at citynetwork.se
Tue Nov 8 17:25:13 UTC 2016


I +1 that Bruno, that would probably be very interesting for an app dev, and/or company behind. 

Can perhaps go one step further if there are many participants and give that to 2-4 place too, depending on how many cloud providers are up for it...

(Shouldn't be a problem convincing CEOs of the benefit ;) )

//Petter

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> On 8 Nov 2016, at 17:58, Bruno Morel <bmorel at internap.com> wrote:
> 
> +1 too, here.
> 
> I may be going too far and talking too soon (didn’t check with our marketing :P), but I’d say that to win each one of the provider product would be probably very attractive (or maybe I’m delusional again ? :)). 
> 
> For the public clouds it should be easy – give a 4 months free instance or something around that idea.
> For the private cloud, I don’t know...Though I’m sure there’s possibilities there
> 
> I don’t know how much the other cloud would be willing to invest in this, but I’m sure we can make the Labs both a place to learn OpenStack, have fun (even when we discuss politics :p) and get great prizes (in a geek sense)...
> 
> Process-wise, it would be as simple as to lock up the prizes/accounts 2 weeks before the summit.
> 
> Bruno
> 
> On 2016-11-08, 4:32 AM, "Sean Handley" <sean.handley at datacentred.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>    +1 on Petter’s points below. I think the value of this kind of session is huge but the turnout over three days could’ve been much higher. Also, perhaps some more interesting prizes than stickers and hats?
> 
>> On 8 Nov 2016, at 08:30, Petter Lund <petter.lund at citynetwork.se> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All
>> 
>> Thanks for enabling this it was great fun to be a part of it.
>> My reflections on the week is like you say Flanders, the ppl that was there was very interested, but wasn't in such a great number.
>> 
>> On your feedback comments i would say that:
>> 
>> 1, It was a good mix of labs, those that were there had to roll up their sleeves to complete them,
>> (but might just be because they wasn't appdev) but still didn't see it too challenging.
>> If the rest of the more advanced labs are completed and available i think even more seasoned appdev would
>> see the fun in them.
>> 
>> 2, Something that could be done is to promote the labs more/earlier during next summit, perhaps during the first Keynote instead of second like in Barcelona.
>> we saw an increase of ppl stopping by after it was mentioned and so on. Could perhaps have more challenge sessions during the summit? giving ppl chance
>> to chose what day to attend? On the labs it self my opinion is that nothing really needs to change, just need to get more ppl to do them ;-)
>> 
>> Looking forward to see this grow and evolve!
>> 
>> Best Regards
>> 
>> Petter Lund
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11/08/2016 12:45 AM, David F Flanders wrote:
>>> And a massive thanks to Gene, Petter, Bruno, Joanna, Sean, Jean, Caleb
>>> (for being instructors + cloud accounts) and the everyone else for
>>> stopping by and saying 'hi', it was great to see you all.
>>> If nothing else, the Labs lounge/training was a good place to meet and
>>> have meetings with the emerging set of community leaders in this
>>> space.
>>> 
>>> I'm keen to get feedback from everyone on the Cloud App Labs
>>> lounge+training (even if afar, first impression), ideally providing 2x
>>> comments:
>>> 
>>> 1x comment for what we should keep (if we do 'cloud app labs' again in
>>> Boston), and
>>> 
>>> 1x comment for what we should change (deltas) to improve cloud app
>>> labs + training.
>>> 
>>> While the cloud app labs and training were well received by those who
>>> participated, we only had around ~40 ppl participate[1] in completing
>>> a lab/training and ~150+ pickup the flyer saying they would be
>>> interested in trying the labs anon once they got home (naturally I
>>> will monitor the GitHub analytics to see if we get any takers).
>>> 
>>> All feedback gratefully received and rewarded with Boston brews anon ;-)
>>> 
>>> [1]= I would agree that the majority of people who participated in the
>>> labs were not application developers, but a mix of Operators,
>>> Consultants, Trainers and others who are responsible for engaging
>>> AppDev.  More on this anon.
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>> Flanders
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 3:37 AM, Gene Kuo <gene at openstack.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi Lauren,
>>>> 
>>>> I was working with Flanders as a mentor at the Cloud App Labs Lounge and Python shade SDK training session[1] in Barcelona.
>>>> 
>>>> I’m not sure about other sessions related to app-devs, but I found that most or even all of the attendees of Cloud App Labs and shade SDK training are not app developers.
>>>> 
>>>> In my opinion, we should be focusing more on this community outside of summits. Hackathons may be a good idea as high percentage of the participant are app-devs.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Gene Kuo
>>>> 
>>>> [1] https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/17269/training-for-cloud-app-engineers-cross-cloud-application-deployment-how-to-deploy-application-in-multiple-open-data-centres-worldwide-using-the-python-shade-sdk
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: "Lauren Sell" <lauren at openstack.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 12:14pm
>>>> To: "Bonell Manjarrez, Marcela" <marcela.bonell.manjarrez at intel.com>
>>>> Cc: "user-committee" <user-committee at lists.openstack.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [User-committee] [app] App Eco WG naming
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>> 
>>>> I did not attend the meeting in Barcelona, but the name change and shift to a functional team makes sense to me. One potential small tweak to the wording could be App Dev Enablement?
>>>> 
>>>> Referencing your agenda from the Barcelona meeting, I’m excited about the efforts to improve developer.openstack.org and openstack.org/appdev. In terms of collaborating with other working groups, I’m anxious to hear how the enterprise WG book sprint about migrating / running apps on OpenStack went last week. Seems like a place your team might want to be involved, or at least consider how we leverage and promote the content.
>>>> 
>>>> I also saw notes about mapping the mix of events. I would love to get some feedback about our efforts to attract more app developers to Barcelona and the right strategy for the future, i.e. do we think we’ll ever attract a critical mass of app developers to an OpenStack Summit, or should we be focusing our efforts to educate and build this community outside of the Summits?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Lauren
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 1, 2016, at 11:11 AM, Bonell Manjarrez, Marcela <marcela.bonell.manjarrez at intel.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> - App Developer Enabling +1
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Become a "functional team” +1
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marcela Bonell
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 11/1/16, 5:26 AM, "Christopher Aedo" <doc at aedo.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> During one of our work sessions in Barcelona (etherpad here[1]) we
>>>>>> discussed the name of our working group and agreed it was overly broad
>>>>>> and could use reconsideration.  Those in attendance agreed that our
>>>>>> purpose, scope and deliverables[2] made sense given goals planned for
>>>>>> the next cycle[3].
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As far as names go, we briefly discussed the following before agreeing
>>>>>> to continue the conversation on the mailing list after the summit:
>>>>>> -App Developer Support
>>>>>> -App Developer Enabling
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any feedback on these?  Any others to think about?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think it's also worth discussing whether or not we continue as a
>>>>>> working group or transition to a functional team.  Nobody currently
>>>>>> involved with the App Eco WG was there at it's creation.  Since then
>>>>>> we've broadened our scope to cover more than just creation of the
>>>>>> first-openstack-app guide and chasing improvements in external SDKs.
>>>>>> Given the definitions in the UC charter[4] I think we should be
>>>>>> operating as a "functional team" rather than a working group.  What do
>>>>>> you think?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Christopher
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1]: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/AppEco_WG_BCN
>>>>>> [2]: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Application_Ecosystem_Working_Group
>>>>>> [3]: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/app-eco-objectives
>>>>>> [4]: http://governance.openstack.org/uc/reference/charter.html
>>>>>> 
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