[User-committee] [app] Cloud App Labs (lounge + training)

Bruno Morel bmorel at internap.com
Tue Nov 8 16:58:46 UTC 2016


+1 too, here.

I may be going too far and talking too soon (didn’t check with our marketing :P), but I’d say that to win each one of the provider product would be probably very attractive (or maybe I’m delusional again ? :)). 

For the public clouds it should be easy – give a 4 months free instance or something around that idea.
For the private cloud, I don’t know...Though I’m sure there’s possibilities there

I don’t know how much the other cloud would be willing to invest in this, but I’m sure we can make the Labs both a place to learn OpenStack, have fun (even when we discuss politics :p) and get great prizes (in a geek sense)...

Process-wise, it would be as simple as to lock up the prizes/accounts 2 weeks before the summit.

Bruno

On 2016-11-08, 4:32 AM, "Sean Handley" <sean.handley at datacentred.co.uk> wrote:

    +1 on Petter’s points below. I think the value of this kind of session is huge but the turnout over three days could’ve been much higher. Also, perhaps some more interesting prizes than stickers and hats?
    
    > On 8 Nov 2016, at 08:30, Petter Lund <petter.lund at citynetwork.se> wrote:
    > 
    > Hi All
    > 
    > Thanks for enabling this it was great fun to be a part of it.
    > My reflections on the week is like you say Flanders, the ppl that was there was very interested, but wasn't in such a great number.
    > 
    > On your feedback comments i would say that:
    > 
    > 1, It was a good mix of labs, those that were there had to roll up their sleeves to complete them,
    > (but might just be because they wasn't appdev) but still didn't see it too challenging.
    > If the rest of the more advanced labs are completed and available i think even more seasoned appdev would
    > see the fun in them.
    > 
    > 2, Something that could be done is to promote the labs more/earlier during next summit, perhaps during the first Keynote instead of second like in Barcelona.
    > we saw an increase of ppl stopping by after it was mentioned and so on. Could perhaps have more challenge sessions during the summit? giving ppl chance
    > to chose what day to attend? On the labs it self my opinion is that nothing really needs to change, just need to get more ppl to do them ;-)
    > 
    > Looking forward to see this grow and evolve!
    > 
    > Best Regards
    > 
    > Petter Lund
    > 
    > 
    > On 11/08/2016 12:45 AM, David F Flanders wrote:
    >> And a massive thanks to Gene, Petter, Bruno, Joanna, Sean, Jean, Caleb
    >> (for being instructors + cloud accounts) and the everyone else for
    >> stopping by and saying 'hi', it was great to see you all.
    >> If nothing else, the Labs lounge/training was a good place to meet and
    >> have meetings with the emerging set of community leaders in this
    >> space.
    >> 
    >> I'm keen to get feedback from everyone on the Cloud App Labs
    >> lounge+training (even if afar, first impression), ideally providing 2x
    >> comments:
    >> 
    >> 1x comment for what we should keep (if we do 'cloud app labs' again in
    >> Boston), and
    >> 
    >> 1x comment for what we should change (deltas) to improve cloud app
    >> labs + training.
    >> 
    >> While the cloud app labs and training were well received by those who
    >> participated, we only had around ~40 ppl participate[1] in completing
    >> a lab/training and ~150+ pickup the flyer saying they would be
    >> interested in trying the labs anon once they got home (naturally I
    >> will monitor the GitHub analytics to see if we get any takers).
    >> 
    >> All feedback gratefully received and rewarded with Boston brews anon ;-)
    >> 
    >> [1]= I would agree that the majority of people who participated in the
    >> labs were not application developers, but a mix of Operators,
    >> Consultants, Trainers and others who are responsible for engaging
    >> AppDev.  More on this anon.
    >> 
    >> Kind Regards,
    >> 
    >> Flanders
    >> 
    >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 3:37 AM, Gene Kuo <gene at openstack.org> wrote:
    >>> Hi Lauren,
    >>> 
    >>> I was working with Flanders as a mentor at the Cloud App Labs Lounge and Python shade SDK training session[1] in Barcelona.
    >>> 
    >>> I’m not sure about other sessions related to app-devs, but I found that most or even all of the attendees of Cloud App Labs and shade SDK training are not app developers.
    >>> 
    >>> In my opinion, we should be focusing more on this community outside of summits. Hackathons may be a good idea as high percentage of the participant are app-devs.
    >>> 
    >>> Thanks,
    >>> 
    >>> Gene Kuo
    >>> 
    >>> [1] https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/17269/training-for-cloud-app-engineers-cross-cloud-application-deployment-how-to-deploy-application-in-multiple-open-data-centres-worldwide-using-the-python-shade-sdk
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>> -----Original Message-----
    >>> From: "Lauren Sell" <lauren at openstack.org>
    >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 12:14pm
    >>> To: "Bonell Manjarrez, Marcela" <marcela.bonell.manjarrez at intel.com>
    >>> Cc: "user-committee" <user-committee at lists.openstack.org>
    >>> Subject: Re: [User-committee] [app] App Eco WG naming
    >>> 
    >>> Hi Chris,
    >>> 
    >>> I did not attend the meeting in Barcelona, but the name change and shift to a functional team makes sense to me. One potential small tweak to the wording could be App Dev Enablement?
    >>> 
    >>> Referencing your agenda from the Barcelona meeting, I’m excited about the efforts to improve developer.openstack.org and openstack.org/appdev. In terms of collaborating with other working groups, I’m anxious to hear how the enterprise WG book sprint about migrating / running apps on OpenStack went last week. Seems like a place your team might want to be involved, or at least consider how we leverage and promote the content.
    >>> 
    >>> I also saw notes about mapping the mix of events. I would love to get some feedback about our efforts to attract more app developers to Barcelona and the right strategy for the future, i.e. do we think we’ll ever attract a critical mass of app developers to an OpenStack Summit, or should we be focusing our efforts to educate and build this community outside of the Summits?
    >>> 
    >>> Thanks,
    >>> Lauren
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>>> On Nov 1, 2016, at 11:11 AM, Bonell Manjarrez, Marcela <marcela.bonell.manjarrez at intel.com> wrote:
    >>>> 
    >>>> - App Developer Enabling +1
    >>>> 
    >>>> - Become a "functional team” +1
    >>>> 
    >>>> Marcela Bonell
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> On 11/1/16, 5:26 AM, "Christopher Aedo" <doc at aedo.net> wrote:
    >>>> 
    >>>>> During one of our work sessions in Barcelona (etherpad here[1]) we
    >>>>> discussed the name of our working group and agreed it was overly broad
    >>>>> and could use reconsideration.  Those in attendance agreed that our
    >>>>> purpose, scope and deliverables[2] made sense given goals planned for
    >>>>> the next cycle[3].
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> As far as names go, we briefly discussed the following before agreeing
    >>>>> to continue the conversation on the mailing list after the summit:
    >>>>> -App Developer Support
    >>>>> -App Developer Enabling
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> Any feedback on these?  Any others to think about?
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> I think it's also worth discussing whether or not we continue as a
    >>>>> working group or transition to a functional team.  Nobody currently
    >>>>> involved with the App Eco WG was there at it's creation.  Since then
    >>>>> we've broadened our scope to cover more than just creation of the
    >>>>> first-openstack-app guide and chasing improvements in external SDKs.
    >>>>> Given the definitions in the UC charter[4] I think we should be
    >>>>> operating as a "functional team" rather than a working group.  What do
    >>>>> you think?
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> -Christopher
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> [1]: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/AppEco_WG_BCN
    >>>>> [2]: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Application_Ecosystem_Working_Group
    >>>>> [3]: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/app-eco-objectives
    >>>>> [4]: http://governance.openstack.org/uc/reference/charter.html
    >>>>> 
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