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Thanks Lauren. We can use our conference bridge: 1-224-225-1234 Code: 2017

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Lauren Sell <lauren at openstack.org> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Last week some of the app ecosystem working group met to discuss next
> steps for a potential sample app (not to be confused with the first app
> sprint and documentation that happened last week!).
>
> You can read notes from the last two meetings, including the differences
> between the two initiatives, in this etherpad:
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/os_demo
>
> Most people on the call seemed interested in the idea of running a “come
> with code” contest. The working group / judges TBD would convene at the
> Vancouver Summit to choose a winner, and perhaps we could schedule work
> time there or a hackathon over the summer to build it out. The challenges
> of course are that we’re only six weeks out from the Summit, and contests
> can be hit or miss in terms of producing results (especially if people are
> busy leading up to the event).
>
> Thanks Shilla for putting together a first draft of the potential contest
> guidelines, which we can iterate on in this google doc:
> https://docs.google.com/a/openstack.org/document/d/1jqeoSLqAUyUsiWpfnfSPyFgIqncYed_vDMxvXbv_fWg/edit?usp=sharing.
> The only proposed change I made is to call it a prototype or skeleton app,
> so we don’t scare people off with the deadline.
>
> The next steps are to finalize the contest guidelines as well as a
> timeline to launch it / choose a winner. Please feel free to jump in on
> this thread or add notes if you participated in the call. It sounds like
> the team working on the sample app would like to continue meeting every
> Wednesday at 10 am PT, except for the in-person meeting scheduled for April
> 16th at SLAC (see invite on this list from Karl Amrhein).
>
> I will not be able to attend the call this Wednesday nor the live meeting
> April 16th, so would anyone else like to set up a conference bridge this
> week and run it? Things are getting busy for the foundation staff leading
> up to the Summit, so we’ll definitely need the working group and any
> additional volunteers to help drive this forward if we want to make it
> happen for Vancouver.
>
> Any other thoughts from the community?
>
> Thanks!
> Lauren
>
>
> On Apr 1, 2015, at 12:10 PM, Lauren Sell <lauren at openstack.org> wrote:
>
> We’re using this etherpad for call notes if you’re on the line or would
> like to follow along:
>
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/os_demo
>
>
> On Mar 26, 2015, at 10:34 AM, Lauren Sell <lauren at openstack.org> wrote:
>
> I went ahead and scheduled another meeting for the same time next week:
> Wednesday, April 1 at 10 am PT.
>
> The purpose is to dive into the requirements for the sample app and
> determine when and how to launch a community contest for ideas.
>
> You can register at the link or use the dial in number:
> http://openstack.enterthemeeting.com/m/APXJFTQC
>
> Dial-in Number: (949) 229-4400
> Attendee PIN: 21896#
>
> Cheers,
> Lauren
>
>
> On Mar 25, 2015, at 4:43 PM, Chris C. Kemp <Chris.C.Kemp at nebula.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Karl and James!
>
> Our goal will be to create a working session and collaborative meeting
> that allows local participants to interact with remote participants.  I
> believe that SLAC has some great facilities for this, so this is fantastic.
>    Thank you again for agreeing to host.
>
> We can work on locking down the agenda during next week's call.
>
> Best,
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karl Amrhein [mailto:ksa at slac.stanford.edu <ksa at slac.stanford.edu>]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:34 PM
> To: user-committee at lists.openstack.org
> Subject: Re: [User-committee] OpenStack Sample Application
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> As discussed in today's online meeting, SLAC can host an on-site meeting
> on Thurs April 16, including remote participants who are not able to travel.
>
> Karl Amrhein
> SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory
> 2575 Sand Hill Road
> Menlo Park, CA 94025
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 02:45:08AM +0000, Chris C. Kemp wrote:
>
> Lauren -
>
> Excellent.  Let's proceed!
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> On Mar 23, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Lauren Sell <lauren at openstack.org> wrote:
>
> It looks like Wednesday at 10 am PT / Noon CT is the best time for the
> majority of folks.
>
> You can register with meetingburner if you?d like to join online:
> http://openstack.enterthemeeting.com/m/4NWDUQ6C
>
> Otherwise you can just dial into this bridge:
>
> Dial-in Number: (949) 229-4400
> Attendee PIN: 21896#
>
> Thanks, and talk to you soon!
>
>
> On Mar 18, 2015, at 10:54 AM, Chris C. Kemp <Chris.C.Kemp at nebula.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Lauren!  I?ve updated the poll and Bill, James and I will forward
> around to other folks that have expressed interest in participating.
>
> Chris
>
> From: Lauren Sell [mailto:lauren at openstack.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 8:39 AM
> To: Chris C. Kemp
> Cc: user-committee at lists.openstack.org; Annette Dow
> Subject: Re: [User-committee] OpenStack Sample Application
>
> Here?s a doodle to see if we can find a date / time next week that works
> for the majority of participants:
>
> http://doodle.com/8dz5nch4prpupbmz
>
> Please respond with the times you?re available, and we?ll schedule an
> online meeting.
>
> Cheers,
> Lauren
>
>
> On Mar 17, 2015, at 1:19 PM, Chris C. Kemp <chris.c.kemp at nebula.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Lauren and Tom!
>
> I believe that Tom has very succinctly captured the goals and objectives
> of the Sample Application and how they are complimentary yet distinct in
> scope from the Tutorials that are being worked on.  In addition to Tom's
> points, I believe that the Sample Application should also evolve as
> OpenStack's core capabilities evolve.   This will provide a practical use
> case for core capabilities as they evolve in the context of a broader
> application architecture.
>
> I believe that there are a number of folks both on and off the mailing
> list that would be interested in participating in a discussion of this
> topic, so I think a call either later this week or next week would be
> ideal.  Bill Franklin from HP and I are happy to put together a few slides
> and lead the call.  James Williams (CC'd) at Stanford SLAC had also
> volunteered to host a pre-Vancouver planning session in the mid-April
> timeframe that could be a hybrid working session (Google Hangout + local
> participation).   This could be a topic of discussion during the call, as
> well as the opportunity to allocate time during Vancouver.
>
> I've asked Annette to help with scheduling on my end.   Looking forward to
> the discussion!
>
> Best,
> Chris
>
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 12:39:51 -0500
> From: Lauren Sell <lauren at openstack.org>
> To: Tom Fifield <tom at openstack.org>
> Cc: user-committee at lists.openstack.org
> Subject: Re: [User-committee] OpenStack Sample Application
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> To chime in on top of Tom?s note, if we want to schedule a sample app
> hackathon the weekend before the Summit, we should have some space
> available in the Vancouver convention center. The Foundation staff would be
> happy to help support and promote those efforts.
>
> Chris, what are you thinking in terms of timing and plans leading up to
> the Summit? Happy to help schedule a call for the group to discuss.
>
> Thanks,
> Lauren
>
>
>
> On Mar 15, 2015, at 9:05 PM, Tom Fifield <tom at openstack.org> wrote:
>
> On 20/02/15 04:49, Chris C. Kemp wrote:
>
> If there was enough interest, we wanted to propose that we bring
> folks interested together to collaboratively develop a set of "core
> requirements" for the application.
>
>
> Do you not follow this mailinglist? There are already plans for a
> OpenStack sample application including a document how to use this sample >
> application. Please get in contact with Tom Fifield and join this working
> group to share efforts.
>
> Please have a look at the following threads on this mailinglist, written a
> few days ago.
>
> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/user-committee/2015-February/0
> 00
> 344.html
>
> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/user-committee/2015-February/0
> 00
> 348.html
>
> Christian.
>
> I have spoken to top on several occasions in the past week (before he
> posted this message, I believe), and we have discussed the need to develop
> code for tutorials.   What I am proposing may be related to this effort,
> but I believe has a different audience and scope, which is why we wanted to
> get a conversation going on the mailing list.    Tom can also comment, but
> I believe the goal for the tutorials is to create fairly small, simple,
> self-contained code snippets to illustrate how certain things work.  A
> sample/demo application is a larger more comprehensive application that
> demonstrates all of the features of OpenStack simultaneously, in a
> compelling way.  It will also not be static - it will evolve with OpenStack
> and demonstrate the value of OpenStack's core capabilities.    I believe
> that sections of code from this larger sample application could be
> repurposed in the form of tutorials.    In any case, I believe that Tom's
> initiative was primarily aimed at creating stra
> ightforwa
> rd and easy to understand documentation and tutorials, and what is being
> proposed here is largely aimed at demonstrating the full breadth of
> OpenStack's capabilities in a compelling way that will demonstrate
> interoperability between OpenStack implementations and the overall
> capabilities of OpenStack's core capabilities.    I hope this provides some
> additional context.    I welcome you to join the conversation about how
> these initiatives are related to each other and can be cross-leveraged.
>
>
> Chris
>
> Hi all,
>
> Sorry for the delay here!
>
> Let me try to elaborate based on my understanding (jetlagged,
> didn't sleep well, could be wrong):
>
> =="First App" Tutorial==
> * Create something that Operators like James Dempsey can give to
> their users to allow them to become effective at building cloud
> applications
> * primary aim: educate on OpenStack APIs via SDKs, secondarily:
> educate on what it means to develop scalable cloud applications,
> where possible
> * Uses a simple App as a teaching tool, but the App is not the star
> - it's there to make the tutorial not completely dry/artificial and
> provide a logical thread through the different sections
> * The majority of the OpenStack SDK usage/API interactions are in
> code snippets presented to the user in the tutorial, not embedded
> in the App itself
> * App can even be a black box for the first section
> * Aim is as minimal as possible: just provides first steps for
> using the most common calls
> * Looking at a real "Reference" App (below), this tutorial would be
> prerequisite reading for people who wanted to work on producing it
> * Similar examples: "Writing your first Django Application",
> "Getting Started with RabbitMQ"
>
>
> ==Sample/Reference App==
> * Full-blown, comprehensive Application coded up so people can
> basically see how all the APIs are used in practice within an app
> and copy and paste things into their own work
> * Covers every part of OpenStack
> * Covers as many APIs as practical
> * as compelling/"flashy" as possible, so it can be used in
> speeches, etc
> * Java J2EE "Pet Store" sample application, or the .NET "IBuySpy Portal"
>
>
> Overall, I think we need both. In systems administration we can
> learn a lot by reading documentation, but sometimes we just want a
> collection of beautiful sample configuration files to understand context
> better.
> Applying this thinking to our OpenStack App Dev world - a first app
> tutorial with sections to kick-start the learning in various areas,
> and a sample/reference app that developers can keep picking at
> whenever they feel the need.
>
> Timewise, the "First App" tutorial will happen within the next few
> weeks. This is good because one of the cool ideas Chris may have
> mentioned was to have a competition to come up with
> Sample/Reference App ideas, and having the ability to train up more
> app developers on the OpenStack SDK basics as they compete would be ideal!
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Tom
>
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