[Product] Finalizing Glimpse @ Roadmap Session

Barrett, Carol L carol.l.barrett at intel.com
Fri May 8 21:02:49 UTC 2015 

Thanks Mike. I'll add us to the cross-project agenda for Tuesday.

Carol

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Cohen [mailto:cohen at noironetworks.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 11:08 AM
To: Shamail
Cc: Barrett, Carol L; product-wg at lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [Product] Finalizing Glimpse @ Roadmap Session

Lets use this webex link:

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On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Shamail <itzshamail at gmail.com> wrote:
> That will work for me too.
>
>
>
>> On May 8, 2015, at 10:34 AM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com> wrote:
>>
>> Works for me.
>>
>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Barrett, Carol L 
>> <carol.l.barrett at intel.com> wrote:
>>> +1.
>>>
>>> How does 11:00 AM Pacific work for people?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Carol
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Shamail Tahir [mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 10:03 AM
>>> To: Mike Cohen
>>> Cc: product-wg at lists.openstack.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Product] Finalizing Glimpse @ Roadmap Session
>>>
>>> That works, should we schedule a meeting on Monday to review notes so that we can coalesce before the cross-project meeting?
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ok, with me.  Maybe then lets just all assemble separate notes 
>>>> without changing the google doc and someone can collate it.
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Shamail <itzshamail at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I think that will work.  I'll be traveling most of the day and I 
>>>>> was
>>>> planning to download the slides and take an attempt at the summarization.
>>>> I'll share my draft by Monday.  Maybe a few of us can attempt 
>>>> building summaries.  This will give us multiple 
>>>> perspectives/summaries to pull from for each project before we 
>>>> finalize the ones we can internally agree on prior to the cross-project meeting.  Is this okay?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 8, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll be midway through the airport security.  I try to join for a 
>>>>>> portion but cannot be counted on unfortunately.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The other question is who is going to do the summarizing.  I went 
>>>>>> ahead and removed the labels with people's names from slides 9-17.
>>>>>> I've also backed up all of these slides to the end of the preso.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shamail / Scott or whoever else wants to edit these.  Go ahead 
>>>>>> and put your name in a new label on the slide to show its been done.
>>>>>> Would that work as a process?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Scott Drennan <
>>>> scottd at nuagenetworks.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like that we’re reviewing with the PTLs - thanks for pushing 
>>>>>>> this
>>>> forward.
>>>>>>> According to
>>>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/CrossProjectMeeting
>>>>>>> it’s at 2100 UTC, which is 1400 PT if I’m doing my math correctly.
>>>>>>> I’m travelling/in meetings Tuesday afternoon but will try to 
>>>>>>> join for some
>>>> of
>>>>>>> the discussion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 8, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok with me.  We can take a crack at it and see how it goes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When is the cross project session tuesday? I'm traveling that 
>>>>>>> day so i may or may not be able to make it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Shamail <itzshamail at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Team, Mike?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 8, 2015, at 9:07 AM, Barrett, Carol L <
>>>> carol.l.barrett at intel.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think we should ask for 20 mins and review the Summary. I'm 
>>>>>>> concerned about getting their mindshare outside of the meeting 
>>>>>>> in the swirl of Vancouver prep work going on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Carol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Shamail [mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 8:28 AM
>>>>>>> To: Barrett, Carol L
>>>>>>> Cc: Mike Cohen; product-wg at lists.openstack.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Product] Finalizing Glimpse @ Roadmap Session
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Carol,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The timeline would work and sounds like a great way for reaching 
>>>>>>> a lot
>>>> of
>>>>>>> PTLs.  Do we want to review the summary or just ask for 5 min to 
>>>>>>> tell
>>>> them
>>>>>>> where to find it and provide feedback directly to us?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Shamail
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 8, 2015, at 7:59 AM, Barrett, Carol L <
>>>> carol.l.barrett at intel.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shamail - I like  your proposed solution. How about we put 
>>>>>>> ourselves
>>>> on the
>>>>>>> cross project session for Tuesday to review? Will that give 
>>>>>>> enough
>>>> time to
>>>>>>> summarize?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Carol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Shamail [mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 5:30 PM
>>>>>>> To: Mike Cohen
>>>>>>> Cc: product-wg at lists.openstack.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Product] Finalizing Glimpse @ Roadmap Session
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wanted to follow-up on the "roadmap" slides conversation we 
>>>>>>> had
>>>> earlier
>>>>>>> today.  Here are some thoughts to start the discussion via the ML...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are two approaches and we will need to balance between them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Problem Statement:
>>>>>>> The way the PTL feedback is documented today is not consumable 
>>>>>>> content
>>>> form
>>>>>>> (no theme, no "why", etc.), but at the same time, paraphrasing 
>>>>>>> could
>>>> put us
>>>>>>> in a situation where we could unintentionally misrepresent their
>>>> intentions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Proposed Solution:
>>>>>>> We build a new version of the roadmap content that is summarized 
>>>>>>> and provides "themes" or the "why" and we ask the PTLs to review 
>>>>>>> the
>>>> paraphrased
>>>>>>> version and approve it prior to the summit.  This would have to 
>>>>>>> be
>>>> done by
>>>>>>> next week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alternative Plan:
>>>>>>> We also keep a version of the roadmap that is the same content 
>>>>>>> on the roadmap as today.  If we can't get PTL responses in time 
>>>>>>> then we move forward with this version.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Summary:
>>>>>>> Roadmap focus would be good for session #1 and paraphrasing 
>>>>>>> would be beneficial.  If we can't get PTLs to review our 
>>>>>>> modified version then
>>>> we
>>>>>>> have to move forward with the alternative plan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll take an initial shot at summarizing the current feedback.
>>>>>>> I'll
>>>> share
>>>>>>> my progress with the team no later than Monday.  We can modify 
>>>>>>> the
>>>> summary
>>>>>>> as a team afterwards.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Shamail
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 7, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A few of us got on the phone today and discussed having a final 
>>>>>>> meeting to finalize the presentation flow for the Monday session.
>>>>>>> We are largely there on content but really still have to nail 
>>>>>>> down the presenters and finalize things. We also still have to 
>>>>>>> finalize how to split things with the second session.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am proposing doing this at 9am PT Thurs 5/14.  I've set it up 
>>>>>>> as a webex so we can review the PPT version of the slides 
>>>>>>> Shamail has been gracious enough to build from our Google doc 
>>>>>>> (note please don't add to the google doc without telling him from here on out).
>>>>>>> If the time is not good for anyone who wants to be involved, you 
>>>>>>> can speak up on this thread as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thursday 5/14 9am PT
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