[Product] Thoughts On Product-wg Deliverables

Kyle Mestery mestery at mestery.com
Tue Dec 23 15:40:06 UTC 2014


On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 12:38 AM, Sean Roberts <seanroberts66 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I'd like to set the in person meeting for the week of 26 January in Palo
> Alto VMware.  Depending on below, we need to decide how long is needed;
> half day to two days is my guess.
>
> I think this is the most important spec/blueprint right now. Neutron
> services split
> https://github.com/openstack/neutron-specs/blob/master/specs/kilo/services-split.rst
>
> This is already implemented actually, so I'm not sure what discussing
would mean here. We're just cleaning up the pieces post-split.


> I think this is the most important topic to discuss right now. Tagging
> approach to project maturity, http://ttx.re/the-way-forward.html
>
> We can start the discussion here. I think these topics will be more than
> enough to make a difference this release.
>
> ~ sean
>
> > On Dec 22, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Stefano Maffulli <stefano at openstack.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > On 12/21/2014 12:56 PM, Colette Alexander wrote:
> >> This all sounds good - but it also sounds like a lot of continuous work
> and
> >> commitment to be a part of the community in ways that haven't yet
> existed.
> >> To that end, I wonder how this collaboration might happen. I know
> there's a
> >> mid-cycle meetup being planned - is there anything else that might make
> >> sense for us to do on a more regular (weekly?) basis? I have all of the
> >> where/how questions about the above list (which is a *great* one) - and
> one
> >> question that Allison,Sean and Rob posited at the Summit still sticks
> in my
> >> craw: are we all willing, as a group, to share pieces of our
> >> roadmap/customer feedback & internal prioritization at the open source
> >> level to help out with this?
> >
> > That's a great question and one that I'd love to see answered.
> >
> > I'd honestly settle if anyone in this group would identify the most
> > important specs, for them, and ask to this group for any doubt/question
> > they have.
> >
> > For example, Neutron approved *a lot* of specs for Kilo, the core team
> > knows they've over-booked their resources. Chances are, a lot of these
> > specs have high chances of not going to be shipped in Kilo release.
> >
> > http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/
> >
> >> It might be a thing that has to develop organically through meetings,
> but I
> >> do think developing our own upstream shared space of understanding and
> ways
> >> of work will be the first step, before we can provide a unified vision
> to
> >> present & help with project work happening upstream.
> >
> > Meeting regularly would be good. Any thoughts on the medium and time?
> >
> >> I agree wholeheartedly with all of the above, *especially* with the
> >> not-telling-project teams what to do. I do think some work could/might
> be
> >> done by this group during a development cycle with an eye towards
> >> presenting to developers or teams before the summit for the next
> >> development cycle. I also think for folks who are on the more program
> >> spectrum of things (as opposed to product management), meeting or
> gathering
> >> mid-cycle to reaffirm resource commitments through the end of the
> >> development cycle, or all folks gathering to help re-prioritize if
> projects
> >> need it, wouldn't be awful either.
> >
> > I'll let Sean kick-off the conversation about an in-person meeting some
> > time before/around kilo-2.
> >
> > /stef
> >
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