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    <p>Hello,</p>
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    <p>Oops.. I did not include <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:openstack@lists.openstack.org">openstack@lists.openstack.org</a> (cross
      pain T.T)</p>
    <p>Please include all recipients on the following forwarding e-mail
      to discuss some aspects for translators.</p>
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    <p>With many thanks,</p>
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    <p>/Ian<br>
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            <td>Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: [Openstack] The Forum: in more
              detail</td>
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            <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">Date: </th>
            <td>Thu, 5 Jan 2017 14:54:09 +0900</td>
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            <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">From: </th>
            <td>Ian Y. Choi <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ianyrchoi@gmail.com"><ianyrchoi@gmail.com></a></td>
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            <td>Tom Fifield <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tom@openstack.org"><tom@openstack.org></a></td>
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            <td>OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
              questions) <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org"><openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org></a>,
              Openstack-i18n <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:openstack-i18n@lists.openstack.org"><openstack-i18n@lists.openstack.org></a>,
              Thierry Carrez <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:thierry@openstack.org"><thierry@openstack.org></a></td>
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      <pre>Hello,

What a good article for the background of Forum and PTG with details!

By the way, I have one question regarding to discount of translators for 
the Forum.

Due to the nature (large number of members, geographically-dispersed, 
coming from all over our community, ops, devs, users)
of I18n team [1], me and previous I18n PTLs (Daisy and Kato-san) have 
encouraged translators
to participate in Forum to meet each other offline and discuss many 
translation and integration issues rather than attending to PTG.

For translators, it seems that few translators will physically attend to 
PTG because of such nature,
which implies that many translators who previously received discount 
codes for the Summit with the recognition of ATCs
will not receive discount codes for the Forum.

Then, is there less possibility for them to receive discount codes?

I have been so expecting that more translators and I18n members will 
participate in the Forum and discuss how more translation activities
will be vitalized with user community activities. Please give me some 
direction for successful participation and making fruits from I18n team 
on the Forum.

(Of course, PTG is also an important event for I18n team although few 
I18n members will go there.
 I would like to bring some topics to discuss horizontally with many 
teams in near future, not too late or long.)


[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.openstack.org/ptg#tab_faq">http://www.openstack.org/ptg#tab_faq</a>
[2] 
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2016-November/009294.html">http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2016-November/009294.html</a> 



With many thanks,

/Ian


Tom Fifield wrote on 1/5/2017 1:19 PM:
> Hi *dev,
>
> Post over on the general ML you might be interested in - please send 
> replies there to avoid cross-posting pain ;)
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Tom
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: [Openstack] The Forum: in more detail
> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2017 11:42:53 +0800
> From: Tom Fifield <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tom@openstack.org"><tom@openstack.org></a>
> To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:openstack@lists.openstack.org">openstack@lists.openstack.org</a>
>
> Hi all,
>
> working with colleagues, I've just put up a post cobbling together 
> some more detail on the Forum. Sorry it took so long!
>
> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/openstack-forum/">http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/openstack-forum/</a>
>
>
> There's now also a wiki page to be the reference for us to follow when 
> preparing or participating:
>
> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum</a>
>
>
> Please check them out and reply with any thoughts, ideas or angry rants!
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Tom
>
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