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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>We have in total 4 separate clouds who need the upgrade with each more than 100 compute nodes. We just use the basic services like nova, keystone, neutron, glance and horizon. No Cinder, heat, trove etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Our network setup is flat provider network, which means we don’t use the neutron router. All in all the from the openstack service perspective a minimal setup.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>One of our cloud is set up as HA with two management nodes (keystone, nova, horizon, glance) behind a haproxy. It’s not a big deal to have the same setup implemented in all clouds if it’s helpful for the upgrade<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>We don’t think about upgrading from Centos 6 to 7. Instead build new Centos 7 compute nodes and move the VMs with live migration (is it a good idea?)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>What does it affect? Let’s say we set up a second management node wit Centos 7 and the openstack Juno/Kilo services will it work against the Centos 6/Icehouse compute nodes and the Icehouse DB schema?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Thanks in advance!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Remo Mattei [mailto:Remo@Italy1.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 17, 2015 19:54<br><b>To:</b> Chris <contact@progbau.de><br><b>Cc:</b> openstack@lists.openstack.org; Mark Hollow <mark@markhollow.com>; Soputhi Sea <puthi@live.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openstack] OpenStack upgrade Icehouse Centos 6 best practice<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Well this can be very time consuming but first thing first<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>1) how is your installation done?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>2) is this an HA env?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>3) chaining from 6.x to 7 is good but may not play well <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>4) database schema changed from Icehouse to Juno so keep that in mind. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Then you can start thinking on the upgrades. I know some of my coworker had hard time to upgrade. Recommended is rebuild / migrate. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ciao<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Remo  <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Aug 17, 2015, at 12:53, Chris <<a href="mailto:contact@progbau.de">contact@progbau.de</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>We currently plan to upgrade our Openstack setup from Icehouse to Juno or even Kilo. This also includes a version upgrade on the host based OS from Centos 6.6 to 7.x<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I have some questions regarding the upgrade an hope to learn from your experience.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>First question is, is there a Openstack version compatibility guaranteed within the different releases? The idea behind it to upgrade the different services (compute nodes / management nodes) in separate phases.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Second, is the live-migration with block-migrate feature compatible between versions. One upgrade solution we currently playing with is to move existing VMs with live-migration & block-migrate (no shared storage) to fresh installed Centos 7 Kilo compute nodes.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Any best practice tips highly appreciated!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>!DSPAM:1,55d1bf33255572126019201! _______________________________________________<br>Mailing list:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#954F72'>http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br>Post to     :<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><a href="mailto:openstack@lists.openstack.org"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#954F72'>openstack@lists.openstack.org</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br>Unsubscribe :<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#954F72'>http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br><br><br>!DSPAM:1,55d1bf33255572126019201!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>