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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/22/14 2:08 PM, Kevin Benton
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      <div dir="ltr">Can't you simulate the same topology as the
        FlatDHCPManager + Floating IPs with a shared network attached to
        a router which is then attached to an external network?</div>
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    Mmmmaybe?  Floating IP support in nova-network is pretty great
    (allocation, assignment, release, etc.) and allows us shuffle around
    a small number of public IPs amongst a much larger number of
    instances.  Your suggestion doesn't address that, does it?  Short of
    my implementing a bunch of custom stuff on my own?<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Andrew
          Bogott <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Greetings!<br>
              <br>
              I'm about to set up a new cloud, so for the second time
              this year I'm facing the question of Neutron vs.
              nova-network.  In our current setup we're using
              nova.network.manager.FlatDHCPManager with floating IPs. 
              This config has been working fine, and would probably be
              our first choice for the new cloud as well.<br>
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              At this point is there any compelling reason for us to
              switch to Neutron?  My understanding is that the Neutron
              flat network model still doesn't support anything similar
              to floating IPs, so if we move to Neutron we'll need to
              switch to a subnet-per-tenant model.  Is that still
              correct?<br>
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              I'm puzzled by the statement that " <a
                moz-do-not-send="true">upgrades without instance
                downtime will be available in the Kilo release"[1] --
                surely for such a path to exist, Kilo/Neutron would need
                to support all the same use cases as nova-network.  If
                that's right and Neutron is right on the verge of
                supporting flat-with-floating then we may just cool our
                jets and wait to build the new cloud until Kilo is
                released.  </a>I have no particular reason to prefer
              Neutron, but I'd like to avoid betting on a horse right
              before it's put down :)<br>
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              Thanks!<br>
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              -Andrew<br>
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          <div>Kevin Benton</div>
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