<html><head><style>body{font-family:Calibri,Arial;font-size:13px}</style></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Calibri,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">Check below</div> <div id="bloop_sign_1388513023687659008" class="bloop_sign"><span style="font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:13px"></span>-- <br>Remo Mattei<br><br></div> <br><p style="color:#A0A0A8;"> December 30, 2013 at 19:37:14, tudor (<a href="mailto://tudor@tudorholton.com">tudor@tudorholton.com</a>) ha scritto:</p> <div><blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq" style="font-family: Calibri, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span><div><div><p>Could you elaborate on your thinking here, Remo? I've had the opposite experience. I found Devstack frustrating because it presumes a single-node installation, and I'd lose all my settings every time I reran the script, and there's still a high degree of knowledge of the components if you want to go further. As the name suggests, it's really aimed at the developers of OpenStack and not a "trial-run" or "test" installation.</p></div></div></span></blockquote></div><p>Devstack is indeed for developers as well as packstack but at least you will have to know how the components will interact together before you add a second layer that cover what’s behind the scene like fuel. I did work with Mirantis so I know the nice options offered with Fuel. </p><div><div><blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq" style="font-family: Calibri, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span><div><div><p><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">RDO doesn't offer things like High Availability and won't run on non-RedHat/CentOS/Fedora nodes. (I don't know about Ceph offerings.)</p></div></div></span></blockquote></div><p>RDO will have this options soon as far as I know. </p><div><div><blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq" style="font-family: Calibri, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span><div><div><p><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">After months of trying and retrying I stumbled upon Mirantis and had it running inside VirtualBox in minutes with Ubuntu nodes! I then did a bare-metal installation and I was more easily able to distinguish what was my own hardware/network issues, and what were gaps in my OpenStack knowledge. Fuel gave me an 'Ahah!' moment with Neutron and networking which was previously hidden in installation detail. "Choices" that aren't very clear in the OS documentation as to their benefits or hindrances became simple radio buttons and check boxes which I could play with and try out. I can also have Fuel verify and recheck my settings (something which I'd started writing my own scripts for, but was glad to scrap as they were becoming complex and cumbersome.)</p><p>I can't speak highly enough of Mirantis (and currently have a 4.0 installation running as of this morning). My only complaint is that they require registration for download, which is a little strange for an "open" product. (But then a number of companies are trying different things to monetise their development, and that's a whole different discussion.)</p></div></div></span></blockquote></div><p>Yes the new fuel will have Neutron and Ceph and allows you to select what you would like in your Openstack infrastructure, still does not mean you know what you are doing. Learn first then use the tools to make your life easer otherwise troubleshooting is going to be a nightmare. </p><p><br></p><p>Just my 2 cents.</p><div><blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq" style="font-family: Calibri, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span><div><div><p><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">I'm interested to hear your thinking.</p><p>Cheers,<br>Tudor. </p><p> </p><p>On 2013-12-31 11:08, Remo Mattei wrote:</p><blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; margin-left: 5px; width: 747px;"><pre>I would not use fuel yet I would suggest to check rdo and devstack then when you have an understanding you could use fuel
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</pre><blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; margin-left: 5px; width: 747px;">Il giorno Dec 30, 2013, alle ore 14:20, Hao Wang <<a href="mailto:hao.1.wang@gmail.com">hao.1.wang@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto: I agree with Martinx even though I have not tried 4.0 but the previous version impressed me a lot comparing RDO and manual processes. Regards, Howard On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Martinx - ジェームズ <<a href="mailto:thiagocmartinsc@gmail.com">thiagocmartinsc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; margin-left: 5px; width: 747px;">I tried Mirantis Fuel 4.0 yesterday! Seems to be very great!!<blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; margin-left: 5px; width: 747px;">On 30 December 2013 19:42, Kaushal Shriyan <<a href="mailto:kaushalshriyan@gmail.com">kaushalshriyan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; margin-left: 5px; width: 747px;">On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Remo Mattei <<a href="mailto:remo@mattei.org">remo@mattei.org</a>> wrote: You should look at devstack and packstack Openstack.rdo.com has a nice install guide. Remo</blockquote>Hi Remo, Are you referring to the below URL's<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://devstack.org/">http://devstack.org/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Packstack">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Packstack</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://openstack.redhat.com/Main_Page">http://openstack.redhat.com/Main_Page</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Please correct me if i am on the wrong URL's? Regards, Kaushal _______________________________________________ Mailing list:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Post to :<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:openstack@lists.openstack.org">openstack@lists.openstack.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Unsubscribe :<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack</a></blockquote>_______________________________________________ Mailing list:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Post to :<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:openstack@lists.openstack.org">openstack@lists.openstack.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Unsubscribe :<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack</a></blockquote>_______________________________________________ Mailing list:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Post to :<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:openstack@lists.openstack.org">openstack@lists.openstack.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Unsubscribe :<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack</a></blockquote><pre>_______________________________________________
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