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<div><br>On 22 Dec 2013, at 6:34 pm, Matt Van Winkle <<a href="mailto:mvanwink@rackspace.com">mvanwink@rackspace.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div>
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<div>I'm torn. I get the benefit of trying to do this at another event when a lot of folks will be there anyway, but at the same time, I think there are some pretty significant discussions we need to have, as operators, if we want to push Openstack to be what
it can be. If that's the case, I don’t' know that trying to fit a few talks, sessions or other short visits inside another event is going to do it justice.</div>
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<div>From the pain of large deploys, to the inability to run some services in a redundant fashion to the lack of maintaining state when services restart, there are a lot of areas we, as users, can give feedback to the TC and the developers that will help make
this product a viable competitor to other cloud offerings (like EC2) out there. It's not there right now, at least at scale, and I think it's up to us to change the trend of development/thought from that of building a cool private cloud technology to scaling
the product to 10's of thousands, 100's of thousands or millions of nodes. A lot needs to be done to make that happen.</div>
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<div>Anyway, I think to accurately hash out the things we like to see for all this, we should find a time that we can get together for a couple days and discuss it all in detail without trying to stay focused on material from another conference. That's my
$.02 at least. I'll gladly do what ever, but wanted to challenge this current thread about attaching this effort to another event a little.</div>
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<div>Thanks a ton!</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Sriram Subramanian <<a href="mailto:sriram@sriramhere.com">sriram@sriramhere.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Saturday, December 21, 2013 4:17 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Clint Byrum <<a href="mailto:clint@fewbar.com">clint@fewbar.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>openstack <<a href="mailto:openstack@lists.openstack.org">openstack@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [Openstack] Bringing focus to the Operators and Users at the next summit<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.oscon.com/oscon2014">OSCON </a>2014 is AFTER next OpenStack Summit - July 20 - 24, 2014.
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<div><a href="http://learningatscale.acm.org/">SCALE</a> is probably doable, with WIP proposals are due only on Jan 2nd. </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Clint Byrum <span dir="ltr">
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Excerpts from Matthew Ray's message of 2013-12-20 20:22:20 -0800:<br>
<div class="im">> Perhaps we could try to co-locate a future Operators mini-summit with<br>
> FOSDEM or SCALE (February) and/or OSCON (July)? Events like those are<br>
> conveniently scheduled between November and April and likely to already<br>
> have OpenStack-related developers/deployers planning on attending. The<br>
> logistics might not work for February, but we should start planning for the<br>
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OSCON is an ideal venue for this. Certainly we should approach the<br>
organizers immediately as I'm sure plans are already solidifying.<br>
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For SCALE I think we may be too late, as the CFP has closed and it is<br>
just 2 months away.<br>
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We're all busy, is there anybody who can step up and drive this?<br>
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