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--></style></head><body lang="EN-AU" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I guess what I'm trying to say by "Users and Operators" covers carriers and telcos. By User I mean folks that consume OpenStack resources and by Operator I mean folks that supply OpenStack resources. Maybe all can be called Users but whatever one calls it, what I mean basically is Non-Developers actually working on and with OpenStack. :)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Cheers</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Tristan</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<div style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style>From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style> Kyle MacDonald [mailto:<a href="mailto:kyle.macdonald@gmail.com">kyle.macdonald@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 12 December 2013 7:02 PM<br><b>To:</b> Tristan Goode<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:openstack@lists.openstack.org">openstack@lists.openstack.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openstack] Bringing focus to the Operators and Users at the next summit</span></p>
</div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Tristan<span style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I like this idea and agree it should be a priority. I do suggest the focus area be expanded (or a second focus day) to accommodate carriers and telcos and their operations needs (they are real operators).</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">There is a ton of work being done by the leading telco's around NFV and SDN (many in emerging use cases) using OpenStack. I can very easily see "operations" being a killer issue and something that should be more broadly addressed. Last summit the forum for that track of discussions was by a vendor - next summit this area should be made more neutral and inclusive.</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Kyle </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On Dec 11, 2013, at 10:55 PM, Tristan Goode <<a href="mailto:tristan@aptira.com">tristan@aptira.com</a>> wrote:</p>
</div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">G'day OpenStackLand,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I have an idea for the next summit to put forward...</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Like we have the various project design summit session days at the summits, I think it'd be really useful to have an Operators and Users day at the very start of the next summit (and hopefully all of them in future if it works out). So far at the last 4 summits I've attended, from the users and operators point of view we've had a rag tag bunch of disconnected panels and 40 minute sessions that really don't get anywhere much and don’t make it to any sort of plan or worthwhile result. This proposed "Operators and Users" day will be run like the design summit session days where all of us that have to deal with the consequences of the software development of this project sit in a room and work the issues. The goal is to present real world, evidence based Operator, User, and even other input like Sales and Marketing experiences back into the development teams. Maybe we might even have our own "Operators and Users" lounge too. :-P</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Cheers</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Tristan</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p>
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