<html><body><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>To be clear, OpenStack Grizzly contains the VCDriver that performs the standard set of Nova VM operations (start, stop, suspend, resume, etc.) by talking directly to vCenter without the need for additional commercial technologies. See: <a href="http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/vmware.html">http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/vmware.html</a> . </div><div><br></div><div>The Nova vCenter integration has been tested by a fair number of people and deployed in production by a handful. While we still provide bug fixes for Grizzly, we recommend the more recent Havana release for any new production deployments. There is also a legacy Nova driver that talks directly to ESX (the original model prior to Grizzly, contributed by Citrix I believe). This driver is not actively maintained and I have not been part of any customer installs with it, so I cannot comment on what does or does not work.</div><div><br></div><div>Dan</div><div> </div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #1010FF;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Kai KT Tong" <tongkai@cn.ibm.com><br><b>To: </b>"Hai Quan Chen" <chenhaiq@cn.ibm.com><br><b>Cc: </b>openstack@lists.openstack.org<br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, December 3, 2013 6:05:53 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Openstack] vmwareapi with VMwareESXDriver<br><div><br></div>
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<span size="2" face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">In our lab, our OpenStack (Grizzly) can connect to vCenter to view OS machines and images. It needs two IBM production: SCE and Smartcloud.</span><br>
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<span size="2" face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">EXSI 5.1, 5.0 4.x are supported.</span><br>
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<span size="2" face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small;">For now it can only review these OS resources and can not manage OS resources such as deploy/start/stop. We lack customization steps.</span><br>
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<span size="1" color="#5F5F5F" face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="color: #5f5f5f; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: xx-small;" style="color: #5f5f5f; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: xx-small;">From: </span><span size="1" face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: xx-small;" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: xx-small;">Hai Quan Chen/China/IBM@IBMCN</span><br>
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In my lab, I have a running ESXi on Mac mini server, which connects to Openstack via vCenter.</span><span size="3" face="serif" data-mce-style="font-family: serif; font-size: medium;" style="font-family: serif; font-size: medium;"><br>
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From: </span><span size="1" face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: xx-small;" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: xx-small;">Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org></span><span size="3" face="serif" data-mce-style="font-family: serif; font-size: medium;" style="font-family: serif; font-size: medium;"> </span><span size="1" color="#5F5F5F" face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="color: #5f5f5f; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: xx-small;" style="color: #5f5f5f; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: xx-small;"><br>
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Date: </span><span size="1" face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: xx-small;" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: xx-small;">2013/12/04 07:46</span><span size="3" face="serif" data-mce-style="font-family: serif; font-size: medium;" style="font-family: serif; font-size: medium;"> </span><span size="1" color="#5F5F5F" face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="color: #5f5f5f; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: xx-small;" style="color: #5f5f5f; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: xx-small;"><br>
Subject: </span><span size="1" face="sans-serif" data-mce-style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: xx-small;" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: xx-small;">Re: [Openstack] vmwareapi with VMwareESXDriver</span><span size="3" face="serif" data-mce-style="font-family: serif; font-size: medium;" style="font-family: serif; font-size: medium;"> <br>
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On 2013-12-03 14:47:48 -0800 (-0800), Stefano Maffulli wrote:<br>
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> If so, I haven't heard of anybody virtualizing OS X but I'd be happy to<br>
> be proven wrong.<br>
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As recently as last year a former employer of mine was looking into<br>
it, but the issue turned out to be one of licensing. Apple didn't<br>
license OS X for running on any hardware except their own, so while<br>
there were some ways to make it technically possible it was not<br>
_legally_ possible. This also seems to be reflected in VMware's<br>
knowledge base now...<br>
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Jeremy Stanley<br>
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