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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Thanks Alexis<div>Peter</div><br><br><div>> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:37:07 +0100<br>> Subject: Re: [Openstack] [Spam] Re: what is the meaning to alliance with VMWare?<br>> From: alexis@rabbitmq.com<br>> To: mcheung63@hotmail.com<br>> CC: clint@fewbar.com; openstack@lists.openstack.org; openstack@lists.launchpad.net<br>> <br>> Peter,<br>> <br>> Example of OpenStack with vSphere -<br>> <br>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2gBypQaxqk<br>> <br>> alexis<br>> <br>> <br>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Peter Cheung <mcheung63@hotmail.com> wrote:<br>> > Thanks Clint. If we treat VMWare as a neighbor, we meet another trouble, how<br>> > can we pack openstack and vmware into a single solution? what kind of<br>> > customer need such as solution?<br>> ><br>> > Compete with VMWare seems to be the right choice, openstack has a great<br>> > advantage in price and community. People may say vmware features are still<br>> > better, but we just need some more time to catch up. This is just my<br>> > opinion.<br>> ><br>> > from Peter<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >> From: clint@fewbar.com<br>> >> To: openstack@lists.openstack.org<br>> >> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 09:13:13 -0700<br>> >> CC: openstack@lists.launchpad.net<br>> >> Subject: Re: [Openstack] [Spam] Re: what is the meaning to alliance with<br>> >> VMWare?<br>> ><br>> >><br>> >> Excerpts from Peter Cheung's message of 2013-07-29 07:29:10 -0700:<br>> >> > Dear Brian thanks for reply. May be because there is no cheap AIX, so<br>> >> > linux and AIX can be sell in different price range. But in here, the market<br>> >> > is : openstack compete with ESXi or ESX essential plus. We are a consultancy<br>> >> > firm, our sales are competing with VMware sales. In HK, vmware sales even<br>> >> > want us die. If we die, the only competitor left is microsoft.The war here<br>> >> > is very obvious.<br>> >><br>> >> Hi Peter. I understand that at times, sales negotiations can be like war,<br>> >> with your client being the innocent bystanders caught in the middle.<br>> >><br>> >> But markets are not war-zones. Wars intrinsically expend<br>> >> resources. Markets, however, grow resources and make things more<br>> >> efficient, until they are outmoded, and then they shrink naturally.<br>> >><br>> >> So looking at VMware as a combatant on the field of battle, they are<br>> >> intimidating and evoke fear. I would not want to do battle with this<br>> >> well trained highly motivated battle group.<br>> >><br>> >> If, however, we look at VMware as neighbors, the feelings are different. I<br>> >> believe that they're really just interested in developing the huge<br>> >> untapped resources which are basically unavailable to them without the<br>> >> cooperation and lower cost model of projects like OpenStack.<br>> >><br>> >> To use an analogy, if VMware is FedEx, OpenStack is "people who want<br>> >> efficient roads and airports."<br>> >><br>> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack<br>> >> Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net<br>> >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack<br>> >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp<br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack<br>> > Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net<br>> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack<br>> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp<br>> ><br></div> </div></body>
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