<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Monty Taylor <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mordred@inaugust.com" target="_blank">mordred@inaugust.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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On 05/11/2013 04:07 PM, Asher Newcomer wrote:<br>
> Or even better, just continue to call it openstack networking. The code<br>
> names only serve to confuse the uninitiated. They needlessly steepen the<br>
> learning curve and slow uptake.<br>
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</div>The problem with OpenStack Networking (or getting rid of codenames) is<br>
seen with pre-incubation->incubation->integrated cycle.<br>
<br>
A project cannot call itself "OpenStack Foo" until it actually _is_<br>
openstack foo. So any new project by necessity has to start off as<br>
something else.<br>
<br>
But - if we then require them to drop that name and become openstack foo<br>
when they become incubated or integrated, then we've got what's become a<br>
stable project with a decent amount of contributors renaming itself.<br>
<br>
Every. Time.<br>
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The code names aren't just cute. I kind of wish they were, because it<br>
would make several things much easier if we could just ditch them and do<br>
a pure openstack. code namespace. But the reality is that it gets really<br>
really tricky to deal with a bunch of things if they go away.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div style>I told Monty and the TC this at the Summit (sorry I couldn't attend the session about code names). I find this trickiness a weak argument in the face of the invented names that are getting to be as bad as U.S. pharmaceuticals. Plus it forces us to put a "lookup" table in the docs forever. [1] Let's find a process for naming that meets a few reqs:</div>
<div style>- describes the service</div><div style>- goes through a legal review</div><div style>- enables new eyes to understanding it by reading the English word that the service represents (that can be translated into a meaningful word in other languages)</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>If we have to preface with Stackforge to indicate pre-incubation, that's fine. Use Incubating or some such to indicate incubation. Meaningful words have meaning. </div><div style><br></div>
<div style>I acknowledge we still have to indicate what commands, daemon names, and so on are related to a particular service. That issue is also fixable with some resources and effort and pays off in easier adoption and understanding.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>Anne</div><div style><br></div><div style>1. <a href="http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/install/yum/content/terminology-codenames.html">http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/install/yum/content/terminology-codenames.html</a> </div>
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> On May 11, 2013 3:59 PM, "Davanum Srinivas" <<a href="mailto:davanum@gmail.com">davanum@gmail.com</a><br>
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> Lattice<br>
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> -- dims<br>
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> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Mark Turner <<a href="mailto:mark@amerine.net">mark@amerine.net</a><br>
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> > Tubes<br>
> ><br>
> > ;-)<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Jason Smith<br>
</div>> <<a href="mailto:jason.smith@rackspace.com">jason.smith@rackspace.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jason.smith@rackspace.com">jason.smith@rackspace.com</a>>><br>
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> >><br>
> >> Hello,<br>
> >> I understand why we had to give up Quantum code name but rather<br>
> than just<br>
> >> refer to it as networking let's come up with a new code name!<br>
> >><br>
> >> Thoughts?<br>
> >><br>
> >> Thanks,<br>
> >> -js<br>
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