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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I agree to narrow down the names to Ili or Ichang. A word in pinyin starting with I is a mission impossible</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">My 2 cents are we can google map “Peking” and “Ili” which go to China. But I google map “Ichang”, it can’t locate to “Yichang” in China.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">On Wikipedia, Ichang goes to the Yichang entry, too. But there is an Ili entry. Ditto for local website
</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="http://baike.baidu.com/">http://baike.baidu.com</a>.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Another reason is we rarely call Inner Mongolia as Neimenggu, rarely call Urumqi as Wulumuqi, because there are foreign words, not coming from
pinyin. Ditto for Ili.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Replacing “Yichang” as “Ichang”, I also can figure out some of city names in China which conforms to that. But I don’t know whether that makes
sense:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yichun – Ichun
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:宋体;color:#1F497D">伊春市</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> in Hei Long Jiang province.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yizhou – Izhou
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:宋体;color:#1F497D">宜州市</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> in Guang Xi (This one is nearer to Hong Kong than Ichang)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yicheng – Icheng
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:宋体;color:#1F497D">宜城市</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> in Hu Bei province (the same province in Ichang)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yidu – Idu
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:宋体;color:#1F497D">宜都市</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> in Hu Bei province (the same province in Ichang)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yiyang – Iyang
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:宋体;color:#1F497D">益阳市</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> in Hu Nan province<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yixin – Ixin
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:宋体;color:#1F497D">宜兴市</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> in Jiang Su province<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yizheng – Izheng
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:宋体;color:#1F497D">仪征市</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> in Jiang Su province<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yichun – Ichun
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:宋体;color:#1F497D">宜春市</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> in Jiang Xi province (two Yichun cities, the same pinyin but different Chinese characters)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yibin – Ibin
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:宋体;color:#1F497D">宜宾市</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> in Si Chuan province (a famous city producing white wine)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yiwu – Iwu
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:宋体;color:#1F497D">义乌市</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> in Zhe Jiang province (a famous commodity wholesale market)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I prefer to vote and let the community to determine the result.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">And by the way, no matter how far both are from Hong Kong, they still locate in China</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The rule is the place name in the state/country where the summit is going to be held.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Shane<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Openstack [mailto:openstack-bounces+shane.wang=intel.com@lists.launchpad.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Wong<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 10, 2013 3:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Yi Yang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Thierry Carrez; openstack@lists.launchpad.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openstack] I release naming (calling APAC community)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Good point. A long time ago we used to call Beijing as Peking, but the journalists now will always pick up the pinyin version: Beijing. Since we are after I, we are pretty much down to either Ichang or Ili. Should either
one be chosen, I think that we should document the pinyin version as well. The difference of Y and I is due to historical difference, which we are all familiar with. For example, there are more Wong than Wang, Chan than Chen in HK.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">John<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Yi Yang <<a href="mailto:yyos1999@gmail.com" target="_blank">yyos1999@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">AS the official translation of the citiy names are Yichang and Yili, we are facing a risk to pick up a Chinese city name that most Chinese won't recognize.<br>
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If we really have to choose a city, IMO, Yichang (ichang) would be a better choice, as the Yili(ili) is more than 2300 miles away from Hong Kong, while Yichang (ichang) is (only) 600 miles away.<br>
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Just my $.02<span style="color:#888888"><br>
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<span class="hoenzb">Yi</span></span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On 5/6/13 5:00 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Jacob Godin wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">+1 Ili<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks for all the suggestions ! We probably have enough place names so<br>
that we don't need to extend the naming rules to things that are not<br>
place names.<br>
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So far, the only suggestion that fits in our strict naming rules is<br>
"Ili" (a city or county in the country/state where the design summit is<br>
held, single word of 10 characters or less). To have more than one<br>
option, we'll probably extend the rules to include other places (like<br>
street names) in Hong Kong itself.<br>
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We'll go through name checks and set up a vote soon, I'll keep you posted.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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