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    Dan,<br>
    <br>
    I see your point about throughput and I/O, but if you have a
    multi-core server, greater than say 4 cores, and thus likely you
    would have multiple NICs, 2 or More, your assumptions fall apart
    about the cpu usage and I/o.  For example, using XEN or Qemu or in
    the older systems where this concept originated - VMS OS (from
    Digital Equipment Corp. - see Galaxy product and similar) you can
    assign affinity to CPUs or even dedicate CPU's to tasks or VM's.  In
    addition, using Cisco networking or similar you can dedicated I/O
    paths, and within a system, you can even dedicated a NIC Card or
    Port to a path.  So the deployment of OpenStack on one physical
    server or several should not even be a consideration except to the
    installer and their budget; and whether or not High Availability is
    a concern.  What I think is important is the consistency of the
    network design, I/O design for multiple VM's and the related load
    and intended usage of the individual cores of a server.  But the
    most important consistency is having installation guides that work
    over and over for installations on different hardware and OS's. <br>
    <br>
    Myself, if I can get past my current nova and horizon issues, I will
    then be in a position to contribute in this and many other areas....<br>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    Robert<br>
    <br>
      <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/8/12 4:06 PM, Skible OpenStack
      wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thank you Dan for shedding light on
        this matter. However, there is something concerns me and a lot
        of other people trying to deploy OpenStack is that most Servers
        has 2 NICs which creates a problem because your Demo is a great
        one but the necessary hardware is just not always met !<br>
        <br>
        I have been struggling to find a solution out of it, can you
        suggest some please ?<br>
        Le 08/11/2012 21:38, Dan Wendlandt a écrit :<br>
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cite="mid:CA+0XJm9+4fHj4SBPuGL8yXdf_CJKiPZMrBdMT6sGRQWvxgZBsQ@mail.gmail.com"
        type="cite">Hi,
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>The Quantum Admin Guide indicates that you can choose to
          combine all services onto a single node, or have separate
          nodes: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/services.html">http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/services.html</a></div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I will update the text to indicate that that the main
          reason to use a dedicated network gateway node is if you plan
          on having VMs send substantial amounts of traffic through that
          node, and thus would not want that CPU usage to conflict with
          other openstack services running on your controller node.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>dan<br>
          <br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:06 AM,
            Skible OpenStack <span dir="ltr"><<a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:skible.openstack@gmail.com" target="_blank">skible.openstack@gmail.com</a>></span>
            wrote:<br>
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                <div>Can someone please enlighten us about the goods of
                  having a separated network node ?<br>
                  I honestly work in production envirnoments (over 30
                  nodes) and i really give computing resources more
                  credit than networking ones ! <br>
                  <br>
                  Am i doing it the wrong way here ? <br>
                  <br>
                  Le 08/11/2012 18:49, balaji patnala a écrit :<br>
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                <div>
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                      <div>Hi Openers,</div>
                      <div> </div>
                      <div>One doubt i have is like, as we see in the
                        demo setup in the Quantum Admin guide available
                        in <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://openstack.org" target="_blank">openstack.org</a>,
                        we have Network Node as a seperate physical node
                        connected to Controller Node and Compute Node.</div>
                      <div> </div>
                      <div>But i see that the openstack community who is
                        actively using Folsom is not discussing more on
                        this kind of setup.</div>
                      <div> </div>
                      <div>Not sure if iam missing any key information
                        on this like that the Network Node setup may not
                        be widely used in current deployment scenarios
                        or it is too early to use Network Node as a
                        seperate physical host for openstack.</div>
                      <div> </div>
                      <div>Open comments on this will be more helpful
                        for openstack community to understand better on
                        the features of folsom.</div>
                      <div> </div>
                      <div>regards,</div>
                      <div>balaji</div>
                      <div><br>
                        <br>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at
                        7:09 PM, Skible OpenStack <span dir="ltr"><<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:skible.openstack@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank">skible.openstack@gmail.com</a>></span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                            <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rst"
                                target="_blank">OpenStack Folsom install
                                guide</a> <br>
                              <br>
                              You will find what you want and even more
                              ;)<br>
                              <br>
                              Le 08/11/2012 14:30, Veera Reddy a écrit :<br>
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                            <div>
                              <div>
                                <blockquote type="cite">Hi Skible,
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Can you please send me below
                                    configuration files of three setups
                                    you have mentioned.</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <ul>
                                      <li>ovs_quantum_plugin.ini (For
                                        controller and node)</li>
                                      <li>nova.conf (For controller and
                                        node)</li>
                                    </ul>
                                    <div>Thanks in advance</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Regards,</div>
                                    <div>Veera.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu,
                                        Nov 8, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Skible
                                        OpenStack <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="mailto:skible.openstack@gmail.com"
                                            target="_blank">skible.openstack@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                        wrote:<br>
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                                          <div text="#000000"
                                            bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Hello
                                            Stackers !<br>
                                            <br>
                                            I am currently trying to
                                            create pictures of my
                                            OpenStack deployment
                                            architecture as a part of my
                                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rst"
                                              target="_blank">OpenStack
                                              Folsom install guide</a>
                                            and i would like to ask a
                                            favorite.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Could you be kind and please
                                            take a look at these Pics
                                            below and report back if
                                            there is a missing or wrong
                                            thing.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Thank you.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            ==========Quantum  on VLAN +
                                            3 NICs on controller
                                            node============<br>
                                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="http://i.imgur.com/Ueh5Z.jpg"
                                              target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/Ueh5Z.jpg</a><br>
===================================================<br>
                                            <br>
                                            ==========Quantum  on VLAN +
                                            2 NICs on controller
                                            node============<br>
                                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="http://i.imgur.com/RK6X7.jpg"
                                              target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/RK6X7.jpg</a><br>
===================================================<br>
                                            <br>
                                            ==========Quantum  on
                                            GRE-tunneling + 3 NICs on
                                            controller node=======<br>
                                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="http://i.imgur.com/1jCFC.jpg"
                                              target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/1jCFC.jpg</a><br>
===================================================<br>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            To make of OpenStack, the IT
                                            project of the century<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Best regards<br>
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