<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Cambria, sans-serif; "><div><div>Glad to see some discussion of PaaS and OpenStack on this list. The blog post that Frans linked to below is a very good overview of how we (AppFog) use, and contribute to, the Cloud Foundry open source project.</div><div><br></div><div>What may not be apparent is that Cloud Foundry provides not only a starting point for building open PaaS solutions, but also an industry standard API. We have implemented CF on a variety of public infrastructures (RAX OpenStack, HP OpenStack, AWS) and have the capability of deploying to standardized private/on-prem cloud solutions (OpenStack based from Rackspace, Piston, Red Hat etc.; AWS compatible from Eucalyptus, etc.). With a standard API definition there is the opportunity to be much more inclusive in the PaaS solution space.</div><div><br></div><div>For instance, AppFog not only supports Infrastructure Clouds as application targets, but also native Platform Clouds, such as Windows Azure. This is made possible through our partnership with Microsoft by building a Cloud Foundry API that translates to the native Windows Azure platform services. Going forward we believe that this will become more commonplace, and that the CF API will, in fact, be the defacto PaaS API.</div><div><br></div><div>Huge opportunities open for cloud providers, IT departments, and developers once it is trivial to move application workloads from one cloud to another. Whether this is private/public hybrid and bursting scenarios, movement between private data centers to facilitate consolidation, or developers easily being able to leverage multiple cloud providers for HA/DR purposes… This is enabled by the common Platform API and services that the open Cloud Foundry PaaS project provides.</div><div><br></div><div>This is not future stuff, it is happening now. Try it for free here: <a href="https://console.appfog.com/signup">https://console.appfog.com/signup</a> Create an app, find the clone button in the console, and copy the app to a different continent/provider with 1 click.</div><div><br></div><div>Certainly if you are involved with OpenStack; as a developer, service provider, or IT professional, it is worth your while to take a look at the open source Cloud Foundry project: <a href="http://www.cloudfoundry.org">http://www.cloudfoundry.org</a> . Providing an open PaaS over your OpenStack infrastructure will significantly help your developers and operational teams.</div><div><br></div><div>John</div><div><br></div><div><div><div>John Purrier</div><div>Chief Technology Officer <a href="http://www.appfog.com">appfog.com</a></div><div>jpurrier@appfog.com</div><div>john@openstack.com</div></div></div></div><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span">About: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/johnpur">johnpur</a></font></div></div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Frans Thamura <<a href="mailto:frans@meruvian.org">frans@meruvian.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Thursday, September 13, 2012 12:12 PM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Diane Mueller ActiveState <<a href="mailto:dianem@activestate.com">dianem@activestate.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> "<a href="mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net">openstack@lists.launchpad.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net">openstack@lists.launchpad.net</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [Openstack] paas in openstack and forked cloudfoindry<br></div><div><br></div>and this is appfog.<div><br></div><div><a href="http://blog.cloudfoundry.org/2012/09/13/how-we-built-appfog-using-cloud-foundry/">http://blog.cloudfoundry.org/2012/09/13/how-we-built-appfog-using-cloud-foundry/</a></div><div><br></div><div><br clear="all">--<br>Frans Thamura (曽志胜)<br>Shadow Master and Lead Investor<br>Meruvian.<br>Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider.<br><br>Mobile: +628557888699<br>Blog: <a href="http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger" target="_blank">http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger</a> (id)<br><br>FB: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/meruvian" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/meruvian</a><br>TW: <a href="http://www.twitter.com/meruvian" target="_blank">http://www.twitter.com/meruvian</a> / @meruvian<br>
Website: <a href="http://www.meruvian.org" target="_blank">http://www.meruvian.org</a><br><br>"We grow because we share the same belief."<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Frans Thamura <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:frans@meruvian.org" target="_blank">frans@meruvian.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
yes, that why i found OpenPaaS (<a href="http://openpaas.or.id" target="_blank">openpaas.or.id</a>), in conjuction with openstack-id<div><br></div><div>inside openpaas we create cloudfoundry-id.</div><div><br></div><div>
and now try to learn and research the effect of cloudfoundry, and value proposition on openstack</div><div><br></div><div>yes, we tested OpenStack + Stackato here, and tomorrow the cloud roadshow for startup just starting. hope Indonesia can bring new value in how PaaS value-ing the startup to more competitive</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div></font></span><div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">Frans</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Diane Mueller ActiveState <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dianem@activestate.com" target="_blank">dianem@activestate.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>frans, </div><div><br></div><div>The cloud foundry community has a number of vendors that have leveraged the CloudFoundry core in commercial offerings including ActiveState's Stackato and Vmware' <a href="http://cloudfoundry.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://cloudfoundry.com" target="_blank">cloudfoundry.com</a></div><div><br></div><span>The CloudFoundry PaaS project is a great example of an OpenPaaS - and, in all it's variations, cloudfoundry runs and scales wells on OpenStack. </span><span>"Forks" and "extensions" to the core project are to be expected and encouraged</span><div><br></div><div>This is the "bazaar" effect of open source, the cloud foundry open source project has an active and vibrant Community - and makes it "open for business" as each variation meets the needs of different use cases. <a href="http://CloudFoundry.com" target="_blank">CloudFoundry.com</a> is VMware's publicly hosted PaaS that offers a subset of the languages available in the Open Source code base. Stackato delivers the software for Enterprise Private Clouds to install and manage their own Private PaaSes on-premise. We obviously have added alot of additional functionality to make Stackato secure and enable it to be easy to deploy on-premise.</div><div><br></div><div>ActiveState's Stackato leverages cloudfoundry and a number of other open source projects in our commercial Private PaaS offering. We maintain API compatibility with CloudFoundry, we contribute back to the project, we've open sourced our client and continue to enhance our offerings.</div><div><br></div><div>I'd encourage anyone in the OpenStack community to take a closer look at the cloud foundry project and get involved in helping to continue to ensure that it works well as an OpenPaaS for OpenStack.</div><div><br></div><div>Diane Mueller</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><div><div><br>On Sep 12, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Frans Thamura <<a href="mailto:frans@meruvian.org" target="_blank">frans@meruvian.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p dir="ltr">hi all<br></p><p dir="ltr">we try to make openstack as paas using cloudfoundry. and also seeking alternative to it</p><p dir="ltr">shocked that there are forked cloudfiundry. and got that vmware manage different way his cloudfoundry<br></p><p dir="ltr">there are piston, stackato i hear appfog <br></p><p dir="ltr">never hear cf manage the way people do. in this case forking esp bosh<br></p><p dir="ltr">bosh is the link to openstack and got the forker using openstack as platform<br></p><p dir="ltr">i try to see in different way. hoe openstack work with them and what is the best</p><p dir="ltr">glad there are competition. but sadly one become many rather unique innovation<br></p><p dir="ltr">any feedback? i try to promote open paas and openstack in one community program</p><p dir="ltr">thx all</p><p dir="ltr">Frans Thamura<br>
Meruvian</p></div></blockquote></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Mailing list: <a href="https://launchpad.net/~openstack" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://launchpad.net/~openstack" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~openstack</a></span><br><span>Post to : <a href="mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net" target="_blank">openstack@lists.launchpad.net</a></span><br><span>Unsubscribe : <a href="https://launchpad.net/~openstack" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://launchpad.net/~openstack" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~openstack</a></span><br><span>More help : <a href="https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp" target="_blank">https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp</a></span><br></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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